We were up there today it was crowded a lot of yahoos, a lot of beater Riggs, but not so much common sense and no courtesy sad .  But very entertaining if you weren't in a hurry 

So normal traffic on the rubicon for a holiday weekend lol

And THAT'S why I stay away. Yahoos and crowds, that's not my gig.

Darrell and Jill said
 I will not be going back to that cluster fuck and besides the tacos sucked.  

Man. That sounds like it sucked and the tacos weren't even worth a damn. Glad I skipped this one. Too bad that a few idiots had to ruin it for everyone - isn't that always how it works?

Yahoos and crowds. . . wherever there's a crowd, there are guaranteed to be at least a few yahoo idiots present. I have never liked dealing with crowds, and the older I get, the more I hate them . . .

I think we all need to keep in mind that this is a fundraiser to help keep the trail maintained and open to the general public.  If we don't work at supporting the cause, there will be no cause.

I agree it was a cluster but this event is put on by volunteers and I know they work hard to make it happen.  Does it need work, yes, absolutely.  So like Jeff said, how can we as a club help?

Jeff_R said
I'm sure the RTF would appreciate constructive feedback as to how they can make this important fundraising event better. Clearly this is not the kind of event that everyone enjoys. I personally didn't see any behavior that was too outrageous in both years that I have of attended this event but it certainly wouldn't surprise me given the number of people and rigs there. The off-roading community is made up of all kinds of people and some can be a little too rowdy or unruly. Like out club, the RTF advocates responsible wheeling and works hard to keep the trail open. That's why I go and show my support and try to represent responsible wheelers amongst us.

Last year ingress and egress between the lake and the spillway was a issue, but not nearly as bad as it was this year. The mess apparently got started when a forest service engine tried to come down to the spillway. Traffic backed at both ends of what became a one-way road due the parking on both sides of the road. It turned into a free for all between those trying to enter and those of us who were in the process of leaving. Representatives from the RTF finally got handitalkies at both ends and were able to alternate the flow of traffic. This needs to be met with a proactive plan next year so it doesn't happen again. As I mentioned I see at least two easy solutions (parking on one side only or traffic control at both ends).

Next year I guess we should warn our members about the nature of the event so those who might not like it don't go expecting something different.  

Good point from you & Greg. The pure fact about keeping the trail open is worth while as a stand-alone reason to do whatever is necessary to keep the County from closing it & lost forever. It's easy to complain, but to remain proactive is not as easy, especially when problems occur. As a club, one thing we can do is help...not necessarily at the Cantina, but otherwise for clean-up, trail maintenance, or some other way to contribute to the cause.

Derik/Michelle said
We went up on Saturday around 1:30 PM, I didn't recognize anyone from here. We ended up camping at Spider, the Gatekeeper and the slabs were the busiest we have ever seen, but after that, it wasn't too bad. I think most people were just going up for the day.  

That explains why you didn't wave at us as we passed you heading out from the gate keeper.  Does your wife normally drive?