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Hell Hole Run - Saturday June 17th

  1. Jeff_R started this Member Joined: October 2016
    #2617 Jun 2017, 3:47 PM

    As Mike said, it was a good day. The drive from Foresthill took about two hours and is a very windy road that passes through several deep, and very steep canyons. The temperature was nice and we were able to drive out there in t-shirts in an open Jeep at 8 a.m. There were a LOT of bicyclists on Mosquito Ridge Road and with the shadows and curves we had to be on the lookout for them. According to Brent and Dale there has been significant erosion making the rock ledges much more difficult than they had seen in the past. There were a lot of brush and trees encroaching on the trail. The larger trees that would prevent access had been cut and removed by someone but the trail did not appear to have been maintained this year so there was a lot of vehicle contact with the brush. We did a fair amount of hand clearing of down trees, branches, brush and debris. We went as far as the stream that crosses the trail just before you drop down towards the lake.

    Brent almost got too close to a young rattlesnake when he was spotting for Dale until the snake decided to let him know that he didn't appreciate Brent's presence. Brent might have an opportunity to be in the next Olympics based on how fast he moved! Hopefully Dale just has a sprain and not a fracture. However, fractures sometimes heal faster than severe ankle sprains. Dale iced his ankle while we aired up so hopefully that will help. It was nice that Mike had an opportunity to get his Jeep out again after all the Gallagher family has been through. Although Dale's truck had charging problems, it was nice to see everyone pull together to get us back home safely.

    Jeff and Kathy Root
  2. Guy and Lynda Member Joined: May 2015
    #2718 Jun 2017, 12:30 AM

    Jeff, sounds like you had an eventful day. Lynda & I have been on this trail many times & so has Dale & Brent, so we can believe them when they say the trail is deteriated. Did you not go down to the lake on the trail because of Dale's leg damage?

    G

  3. Dale Clement Member Joined: June 2015
    #2818 Jun 2017, 1:00 AM

    Hell hole was as challenging as ever definitely some deterioration from the winter I would like to thank Brent Mike Jeff and Mark for helping me get my truck back out of hell hole after I sprained my ankle trying to put my foot on backwards LOL all in all it was a great day

    Dale Clement
  4. Jeff_R started this Member Joined: October 2016
    #2918 Jun 2017, 2:38 AM
    Guy and Lynda said Jeff, sounds like you had an eventful day. Lynda & I have been on this trail many times & so has Dale & Brent, so we can believe them when they say the trail is deteriated. Did you not go down to the lake on the trail because of Dale's leg damage? G  

    Dale and Brent felt that we shouldn't go any further due to time and trail conditions. We all agreed that it was time to head back. It turned out to be a very good decision since we ran into mechanical issues after that.

    Jeff and Kathy Root
  5. 70dustpan Member Joined: June 2015
    #3018 Jun 2017, 6:37 AM

    Once we figured out what was wrong with Dales truck "not charging" it became a race to get down the mountain before sundown. Thats another good thing about having matching trucks. Able to share parts. We ran Dales truck off my battery while my truck charged his battery.  Dale and I picked up his truck at Mikes house and got it back home this morning.

    A word of advice; if you hear what sounds like a air leak... Look around for a rattlesnake first.

  6. Mike G Member Joined: October 2016
    #3120 Jun 2017, 12:57 PM

    Really good pic hereKIMG0666.JPG

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    Mike G
  7. Mike G Member Joined: October 2016
    #3220 Jun 2017, 1:04 PM

    I tried to add pics to the gallery Dale but low and behold I have no clue how to do it.

    Mike G
  8. Jeff_R started this Member Joined: October 2016
    #3320 Jun 2017, 1:32 PM
    Mike G said I tried to add pics to the gallery Dale but low and behold I have no clue how to do it.  

    Mike, go to gallery, click photos and select the folder that you want to add photos to. On the right side, click add photos (or videos if adding videos), then click the down arrow in the Gallery (create a new gallery) field, select the trip you want to add photos to, select add files and navigate to the location of your photos (phone, computer, etc.), then select add files ( I think you can only add one photo at a time), add all the files (one photos at a time), then click upload files.

    Jeff and Kathy Root
  9. k-jeep Member Joined: May 2009
    #3421 Jun 2017, 12:58 PM
    Mike G said I tried to add pics to the gallery Dale but low and behold I have no clue how to do it.  

    There's also a nifty How To link in the menu bar. 😉

  10. Mike G Member Joined: October 2016
    #3522 Jun 2017, 12:44 AM
    Jeff_R said

    Mike, go to gallery, click photos and select the folder that you want to add photos to. On the right side, click add photos (or videos if adding videos), then click the down arrow in the Gallery (create a new gallery) field, select the trip you want to add photos to, select add files and navigate to the location of your photos (phone, computer, etc.), then select add files ( I think you can only add one photo at a time), add all the files (one photos at a time), then click upload files.  

    Hey Jeff I'll have to go look at that nifty how to Kevin said cause I did what you said cause that's what I tried to do but I got redirected to some other website and it wouldn't let me do anything from there.

    Does it redirect everyone or just me when trying to upload pics?

    Mike G
  11. Dale Clement Member Joined: June 2015
    #3625 Jun 2017, 4:52 AM

    It turns out that I do have a broken tibia bone in my ankle and not just a sprain I managed to work on it for one week but now it looks like I'm going to be down for a while. I am supposed to hear from the orthopedic surgeon on Monday when they can schedule me to come in and see if they have to do surgery on it hoping for the best LOL

    Dale Clement
  12. Gilbert & Betty Member Joined: September 2014
    #3725 Jun 2017, 5:17 AM

    Dale we hope all goes well and in you favor.  Hope you get well soon buddy.

  13. 70dustpan Member Joined: June 2015
    #3825 Jun 2017, 5:41 AM

    Dale why is your Dr. Wanting to borrow my chopsaw tomorrow?

  14. Jeff_R started this Member Joined: October 2016
    #3925 Jun 2017, 6:19 AM

    Dale, did you fracture the tibia or the fibula. The fibula is the bone on the lateral (outside) part of your ankle joint. Is it an avulsion fracture?

    Jeff and Kathy Root
  15. Mike G Member Joined: October 2016
    #4025 Jun 2017, 6:43 AM
    Jeff_R said

    Dale, did you fracture the tibia or the fibula. The fibula is the bone on the lateral (outside) part of your ankle joint. Is it an avulsion fracture?  

    Ya what he said☝

    Mike G
  16. Mike G Member Joined: October 2016
    #4125 Jun 2017, 6:45 AM

    But really I hope all is well with your ankle sure makes what I'm going through with my Jeep very insignificant

    Mike G
  17. Dale Clement Member Joined: June 2015
    #4225 Jun 2017, 7:40 AM

    It is the small bone on the outside of my lower leg I don't know what kind of fracture it is

    Dale Clement
  18. Dale Clement Member Joined: June 2015
    #4325 Jun 2017, 7:42 AM

    Thanks everyone for the nice thoughts

    Dale Clement
  19. Jeff_R started this Member Joined: October 2016
    #4425 Jun 2017, 10:39 AM
    Dale Clement said

    It is the small bone on the outside of my lower leg I don't know what kind of fracture it is

    That would be the fibula. The tibia and fibula articulate with bone below (called the talus) to form the ankle joint. Depending on the type of fracture, it's very important for it to be treated properly otherwise you can develop chronic ankle instability. That can result in future ankle sprains, especially when walking on uneven surfaces. The medial and lateral malleoli are the prominences on the inside and outside of your ankle. The lateral (outside) malleolus is a part of the fibula. An avulsion fracture can occur when a ligament pulls away taking a piece of bone with it. They can do surgery to reattach the ligament. If it's not an avulsion fracture then you probably fractured the head or neck of the lateral malleolus. I would recommend that you do a little online research on ankle anatomy and ankle fractures so that you understand what the doctor is saying. Treatment options include immobilization (like a walking boot or having your ankle casted), an ankle brace and surgery. You probably have some ligament damage due to the degree of the sprain. In my opinion, you want the treatment option(s) that will give you the best long term result.

    Jeff and Kathy Root
  20. Jeff_R started this Member Joined: October 2016
    #4525 Jun 2017, 11:01 AM

    Dale, here is a good resource: http://www.radiologyassistant.nl/en/p420a20ca7196b/ankle-fracture-weber-and-lauge-hansen-classification.html

    Jeff and Kathy Root
  21. 70dustpan Member Joined: June 2015
    #4625 Jun 2017, 11:21 AM

    Given your age Dale its time to take a ride to that farm.

  22. k-jeep Member Joined: May 2009
    #4725 Jun 2017, 11:23 AM

    I'd listen to Dr. Jeff. If you don't, Dr. Brent may have to take you for a ride. 😀

  23. Dale Clement Member Joined: June 2015
    #4825 Jun 2017, 12:59 PM

    Thank you Jeff for all the information it looks like it's a kind of spiral fracture it runs at a 45° angle and it's near the bottom of the bone I guess by would you would refer to as the head I'm figuring they are probably going to have to pin  it.going to be lots of fun not really ha ha. Hey Brent is it a nice farm LOL

    Dale Clement
  24. Jeff_R started this Member Joined: October 2016
    #4925 Jun 2017, 1:11 PM
    Dale Clement said  Thank you Jeff for all the information it looks like it's a kind of spiral fracture it runs at a 45° angle and it's near the bottom of the bone I guess by would you would refer to as the head I'm figuring they are probably going to have to pin  it.going to be lots of fun not really ha ha. Hey Brent is it a nice farm LOL  

    Dale, where are you being treated (Kaiser, Sutter, etc.?). Who is the doctor?

    Jeff and Kathy Root
  25. 70dustpan Member Joined: June 2015
    #5025 Jun 2017, 1:53 PM

    It a really nice farm. Lots of trucks and open space...  You'll love it there.

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