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  1. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #2628 Oct 2010, 3:52 PM
    "LJ3" wrote: Thanks for the heads up on WFO Rob... talked to Trevor today and maybe ill have those new axles sooner than I thouhgt....Now where to find a 78-79 D60???? know anyone selling?????



    Craigs list? Pick n Pull? Pirate Board?

    Kathleen and Brad
  2. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #2728 Oct 2010, 4:11 PM

    As a side note...Not to anyone in particular...just some thoughts I had about build-ups...



    Building big rigs is cool, but I still believe that your rig should grow with your skill level. Find out exactly what you need to do the trails you drive on. Just building a big rig for the Rubicon just seems like such a waste. It just makes a fairly easy trail just that much easier. I see and know guys that build these huge buggy type Jeeps just to cruise the Rubicon. It's a much easier task to drive your buggy through the Little Sluice, but very different when you are driving a full body rig on 35s or 37s. Now if you are heading to the Hammers, that may be a different story. But still, see how your rig handles the trails and build it accordingly. Not to mention your skills as a driver will increase as you get used to the different levels of the build-up.



    I am now zipping up my fire suit in preperation for flaming :weld:

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  3. Guest former user
    #2828 Oct 2010, 6:48 PM
    "JohnDF" wrote: As a side note...Not to anyone in particular...just some thoughts I had about build-ups...



    I agree but whatever makes you happy. It's your rig and your money. fwiw each of my major builds followed a JV run. πŸ˜‚



    Starting point was 100% stock to:



    Family snow run





    My first Fordyce run: 35's and an unshaved 14b





    to First JV run





    The next JV trip





    The next JV trip





    The next JV trip





    The last JV run from Jan 2010





    As it sits now



  4. RobD Subscriber
    #2928 Oct 2010, 7:14 PM

    All the crap I broke at JV had nothing to do with my build πŸ˜‚ I built mine so I wouldn't break anything on Deer Valley 😁 😁 😁 😁







    "rainfly" wrote: [quote="JohnDF"]As a side note...Not to anyone in particular...just some thoughts I had about build-ups...



    I agree but whatever makes you happy. It's your rig and your money. fwiw each of my major builds followed a JV run. πŸ˜‚

    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  5. Guest former user
    #3028 Oct 2010, 7:45 PM
    "RobD" wrote: All the crap I broke at JV had nothing to do with my build πŸ˜‚ I built mine so I wouldn't break anything on Deer Valley 😁 😁 😁 😁



    I have had little breakage over the years. My builds were motivated by trail denial. 😁 And for the record my first trip to JV I made it 100' up lower Big Johnson. That was my entire weekend right there. I cut a tire, fried a clutch and vapor locked the motor. Best trip ever. πŸ˜‚

  6. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #3128 Oct 2010, 8:12 PM

    Pictures 4 and 5 show less rear sheetmetal than 6 and 7. Did you add sheetmetal to the rear panels at some point, or are the photos reversed?

    Kathleen and Brad
  7. RobD Subscriber
    #3228 Oct 2010, 8:15 PM

    John made it 25 feet into Upper Big Johnson and got denied. He is still a little Johnson Guy 😁





    "rainfly" wrote: [quote="RobD"]All the crap I broke at JV had nothing to do with my build πŸ˜‚ I built mine so I wouldn't break anything on Deer Valley 😁 😁 😁 😁



    I have had little breakage over the years. My builds were motivated by trail denial. 😁 And for the record I made it 100' up lower Big Johnson. That was my entire weekend right there. I cut a tire, fried a clutch and vapor locked the motor. Best trip ever. πŸ˜‚

    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  8. Guest former user
    #3328 Oct 2010, 8:32 PM
    "BKGM Jeepers" wrote: Pictures 4 and 5 show less rear sheetmetal than 6 and 7. Did you add sheetmetal to the rear panels at some point, or are the photos reversed?





    Photo #4 is a so called "comp cut" XJ springs on the rear with a 6" offset center pin.



    Photo #5 is with Dodge Dakota springs. They have a 10" offset pin. In 5 the entire rear tub has been removed and replaced it with tube and sheet matal. I just didn't finish the skins on the sides. Pic number 6 shows it.

  9. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #3428 Oct 2010, 8:51 PM
    "RobD" wrote: John made it 25 feet into Upper Big Johnson and got denied. He is still a little Johnson Guy 😁

    Ya ya ya...Talks a lot of smack for a guy that spends more time fixing his rig at JV than he does driving the trails 😁

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  10. Guest former user
    #353 Nov 2010, 3:16 PM

    Just an update:

    Rear captured coil Corp 14 bolt shaved, going to hold off on the stretch for now.

    Front Dana 60 (still looking for the axle housing) holding off on the coilovers for now until the funding is available.

    Will take pictures of the build when is starts…..hopefully soon. :weld:

  11. Guest former user
    #3613 Dec 2010, 7:21 AM
    "RobD" wrote: I run large 1 ton front calipers and a vanco hydro boost which is the only thing I have found that will stop me on and off-road. I have tried several different brake options and have always gone back to the Vanco.



    Rob did you install the Vanco yourself? how difficult was it?

  12. RobD Subscriber
    #3713 Dec 2010, 4:51 PM

    I did install it myself. It isn't hard if you know what you are doing when it comes to bench bleeding the master, brake line bending, caliper bleeding, and bleeding the steering. As long as you are comfortable doing that it isn't that bad.

    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  13. Guest former user
    #3814 Dec 2010, 7:27 AM
    "RobD" wrote: I did install it myself. It isn't hard if you know what you are doing when it comes to bench bleeding the master, brake line bending, caliper bleeding, and bleeding the steering. As long as you are comfortable doing that it isn't that bad.



    Yep, havent done any of that before. looks like im in a little over my head. I spoke with the tech from AGR yesterday about adding the rock ram and hydro boost. doesnt exactly sound easy. is there anyone out there that would be interested in helping me install these two things in about a month. ill throw in free food/beverages? :hack: :weld:

  14. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #3914 Dec 2010, 7:57 AM

    PSC vs. AGR. Anyone?

    Kathleen and Brad
  15. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #4014 Dec 2010, 8:58 AM
    "BKGM Jeepers" wrote: PSC vs. AGR. Anyone?

    vs. stock steering box anyone?

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  16. Guest former user
    #4114 Dec 2010, 9:30 AM
    "BKGM Jeepers" wrote: PSC vs. AGR. Anyone?

    actually i would be quite interested on any opinions....i looked at both but the guy from Vanco likes the way the AGR worked with the Hydroboost.

    Actually if anyone has any other ideas on a rock ram and brake setup for 1ton axles im all ears? 🀷

    P.S. we need to make an avatiar of a broke guy, cause that what im going to be for a while.... 😒

  17. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #4214 Dec 2010, 10:18 AM
    "LJ3" wrote:
    a broke guy, ... that what im going to be for a while.... 😒

    What else...you own a Jeep 🍺

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  18. RobD Subscriber
    #4314 Dec 2010, 2:48 PM

    I would help you on most anything else, but when it comes to brakes, I only work on mine. If I screw something up, hopefully I am the only one that will pay the price and get hurt or killed 😲 Brakes are a major safety item and most people don't want to take on the liability of doing someone elses brakes. Fred might help you, he also knows the Vanco system.



    "LJ3" wrote: [quote="RobD"]I did install it myself. It isn't hard if you know what you are doing when it comes to bench bleeding the master, brake line bending, caliper bleeding, and bleeding the steering. As long as you are comfortable doing that it isn't that bad.



    Yep, havent done any of that before. looks like im in a little over my head. I spoke with the tech from AGR yesterday about adding the rock ram and hydro boost. doesnt exactly sound easy. is there anyone out there that would be interested in helping me install these two things in about a month. ill throw in free food/beverages? :hack: :weld:

    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  19. RobD Subscriber
    #4414 Dec 2010, 2:50 PM

    John would help you, I hear he is a master mechanic and knows his way around a wrench like no one else πŸŽ‰

    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  20. Guest former user
    #4514 Dec 2010, 3:37 PM

    your probably right. i should just take it to a pro.

  21. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #4614 Dec 2010, 4:25 PM
    "RobD" wrote: I would help you on most anything else, but when it comes to brakes, I only work on mine. If I screw something up, hopefully I am the only one that will pay the price and get hurt or killed 😲 Brakes are a major safety item and most people don't want to take on the liability of doing someone elses brakes. Fred might help you, he also knows the Vanco system.

    You've worked on my brakes...Does that mean you could give a crap if I crash and die? 😈

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  22. Guest former user
    #4722 Dec 2010, 8:31 AM

    Just a quick update

    New tires arrived yesterday MTR 40x13.5x17......actual measurement 40" x 14.5"

    Check out the 35” in the background

    Attached files

  23. Guest former user
    #4822 Dec 2010, 8:32 AM

    New front HP60

    Attached files

  24. Guest former user
    #4922 Dec 2010, 8:32 AM

    New 14bolt rear

    Attached files

  25. Fred Subscriber
    #5022 Dec 2010, 9:22 AM

    Nice! Those front swaybar links may be a little short though. πŸ˜‚

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