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All-around rig

  1. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #121 Oct 2009, 6:20 AM

    I've been thinking about what I would build as an all-around rig. A rig that is versitile enough to use for daily driving, off roading, family camping, fishing trips, and running to the grocery store. The best I've come up with so far is an older Toyota Tacoma 4-door (like Rob used to have). Live axles, lockers and 35" tires 😎

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  2. Guest former user
    #221 Oct 2009, 7:08 AM

    Those were great little trucks even out of the box. With an e-locker in the rear you could go a lot of places.



    What about an LJ? Probably not as much space, but still a decent option. Or a Hummer. That seems to be working out well for Brad. 😁

  3. JohnDF started this Member Joined: July 2003
    #321 Oct 2009, 7:31 AM

    I was thinking pickup because you can throw things in the bed. That's pretty handy.

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  4. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #421 Oct 2009, 8:07 AM

    I guess it depends on budget.



    For the money, (remember that John said out of the box). I'd get a higher mileage LJ Rubicon. Next on the list would be a Tacoma like the one I have (but 4x4). The engine in the newer tacoma is WAY better than the old body style. It's 75HP more, and still gets better mileage, plus both the interior and bed on the newer body style is a lot roomier.

    Kathleen and Brad
  5. Fred Subscriber
    #521 Oct 2009, 10:00 AM

    For a purely all-round rig, I'd probably go with the Toyota truck. If I was more interested in an all-round rig and still have the top-down, doors-off experience I'd lean toward the LJ Rubicon.



    My goal in building my TJ was to build an all purpose rig. I went too far in some areas and would like to fix a couple things. 1) replace the rear Detroit locker with an ARB, 2) possibly lower it a little more.

  6. JohnDF started this Member Joined: July 2003
    #621 Oct 2009, 10:16 AM

    I didn't say anything about "out of the box"

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  7. Guest former user
    #721 Oct 2009, 10:24 AM

    If you are going to use the rig for camping and hunting I would go with the Toyota truck. My LJ fills up real quick with camping gear. In fact, have been thinking about a small trailer to haul all my Junk. just my 1 1/2 cents.

  8. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #821 Oct 2009, 11:15 AM

    In fact, John said the exact opposite of "out of the box".



    In looking for Tacomas, I was surprised that the 04 and 05 models (two different body styles) were the same price! I don't understand why people would pay the same for those two trucks.

    Kathleen and Brad
  9. JohnDF started this Member Joined: July 2003
    #921 Oct 2009, 12:26 PM

    I just thought the old style would fit better on tight trails because it's a little smaller.

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  10. k-jeep Member Joined: May 2009
    #1021 Oct 2009, 1:28 PM

    FJ? 😁

  11. Fred Subscriber
    #1121 Oct 2009, 4:27 PM

    Maybe a Jeep Scrambler! It would have the flexibility of being a truck or a top-off, doors-off Jeep.

  12. JohnDF started this Member Joined: July 2003
    #1221 Oct 2009, 4:39 PM

    I like scramblers but the seating is limited.

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  13. RobD Subscriber
    #1321 Oct 2009, 4:41 PM

    I can tell you first hand since my wife owns one. The FJ is the most worthless out of the box 4wheeling rig ever made by Toyota. John and I took it fishing one time and almost couldn't get up a hill to get home. The seats in it are extremely uncomfortable and it was built very cheap. It is a total chicks rig for going to the mall, but that is about all it is worth...





    "kevheb" wrote: FJ? 😁

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  14. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #1421 Oct 2009, 4:53 PM

    I know the FJ's have very limited articulation (as witnessed at Fordyce), but Rob, does your's have that e-locker? If so, how does it work?

    Kathleen and Brad
  15. JohnDF started this Member Joined: July 2003
    #1521 Oct 2009, 5:22 PM

    That was a fun trip trying to make it up that hill. I'm just glad we kept at least two wheels on the ground at all times πŸ˜‚

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  16. Guest former user
    #1621 Oct 2009, 6:15 PM

    I still miss my Isuzu Rodeo 4x4 - V6 with 22 mpg - plenty of room for people and stuff -

    goes everywhere -was great in the snow. But dummy me had to trade it for a Mustang Cobra!!!

    Oh well - Luv my Jeep now. :rasta:

  17. Guest former user
    #1721 Oct 2009, 7:39 PM

    1st Gen 4Runner or a Toyota Pickup - although my opinion may be a bit biased since I just bought both :rasta:



    1st Gen 4Runner

    * Can seat 4 or 5 and gear

    * Top is removable

    * Can remove the rear seats and install a "blank" and you've got a truck bed

    * Ton of aftermarket support

    * Parts tend to be affordable

    * Very affordable



    Toyota Pickup (Pretty much any year that's either an extra cab or 4 door)

    * Great running trucks that last forever

    * bed to throw your junk in

    * Seat four or five people (I sat two adults in the back seat of my '99 Toyota Tacoma extracab fairly comfortably) and gear

    * Ton of aftermarket support

    * Parts tend to be affordable

    * Very affordable for the Pre-Tacoma models

  18. RobD Subscriber
    #1821 Oct 2009, 8:21 PM

    We have every available option on her FJ. It does have the locker and their hyped up off-road traction control πŸ™„ The locker works good for a locker. But the rest of the rig sucks off road and personally, I think it was built very cheap with a lot of plastic and crap and the seats are probably the most uncomfortable things I have ever sat in in my life!! We are thinking of getting rid of it and putting her back in a BMW, Lexus, or Infinity. The FJ is a good soccer mom car of for a girl in her early twenties, but that is about it. (In my opinion 😁 )



    I think that the 4 door Tacoma or the new Jeep 4 door would be a good family rig.



    "BKGM Jeepers" wrote: I know the FJ's have very limited articulation (as witnessed at Fordyce), but Rob, does your's have that e-locker? If so, how does it work?

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  19. Guest former user
    #1922 Oct 2009, 7:00 AM
    "troyman" wrote: 1st Gen 4Runner or a Toyota Pickup - although my opinion may be a bit biased since I just bought both :rasta:



    Listen to Troy. He know's what he's talking about. πŸ˜€ My only complaint about the 4Runner is that it is a bit top heavy and that can lead to some unusual ride characteristics. The cab is also a bit small and I'm not a big guy, but I do have the roll bar in there which makes it feel a bit more cramped. They also seem to be prone to body damage. πŸ˜‚

  20. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #2022 Oct 2009, 7:50 AM
    "RobD" wrote: We have every available option on her FJ. It does have the locker and their hyped up off-road traction control πŸ™„ The locker works good for a locker. But the rest of the rig sucks off road and personally, I think it was built very cheap with a lot of plastic and crap and the seats are probably the most uncomfortable things I have ever sat in in my life!! We are thinking of getting rid of it and putting her back in a BMW, Lexus, or Infinity. The FJ is a good soccer mom car of for a girl in her early twenties, but that is about it. (In my opinion 😁 )

    I think that the 4 door Tacoma or the new Jeep 4 door would be a good family rig.

    [quote="BKGM Jeepers"]I know the FJ's have very limited articulation (as witnessed at Fordyce), but Rob, does your's have that e-locker? If so, how does it work?





    I had forgotten about the off-road traction control.

    Kathleen and Brad
  21. Guest former user
    #2122 Oct 2009, 8:52 AM
    "Bender" wrote: [quote="troyman"]1st Gen 4Runner or a Toyota Pickup - although my opinion may be a bit biased since I just bought both :rasta:



    Listen to Troy. He know's what he's talking about. πŸ˜€ My only complaint about the 4Runner is that it is a bit top heavy and that can lead to some unusual ride characteristics. The cab is also a bit small and I'm not a big guy, but I do have the roll bar in there which makes it feel a bit more cramped. They also seem to be prone to body damage. πŸ˜‚



    ya, i like my 4runner too. basically use it everyday driving back and forth to work and lunch runs....which reminds me we should probably all get together again at the Mongolian place soon. πŸ™‚ the seats are comfy and there seems to be plenty of room for this "big" guy. and i guess one of these days i'll put a solid axle in the front so i can be as cool as bender and troy. but i guess that would mean i would have to go wheeling again. either that or turn it into a show truck, πŸ˜‚

    rip howdys runner πŸ™

  22. Anonymous former user
    #2222 Oct 2009, 5:02 PM

    Isuzu Rodeo? Thats an interesting idea. What year did you have and are lockers available?

  23. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #2322 Oct 2009, 8:10 PM

    The Rodeo is a rig that Sue used to have. I had one as well. Mine had a D44 rear end, and a limited slip.

    Kathleen and Brad
  24. Guest former user
    #2423 Oct 2009, 5:28 AM

    How about a Jeepster Commando, those are cool!

  25. JohnDF started this Member Joined: July 2003
    #2523 Oct 2009, 5:31 AM
    "gamfam" wrote: How about a Jeepster Commando, those are cool!

    Ya...there we go...those are cool and would fit the my requirements 😎

    I used to wheel a lot. . .

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