"RobD" wrote: Ya, but back then people were still crossing the country in covered wagons 😂
[quote="JohnDF"]I was a Boy Scout 😁
You're just jealous because my wagon had bigger wheels than your's 😏
"scoped" wrote: I am younger than most here...
Did you just call us old? Maybe Rob and John...
I'm not old . . .I'm experienced. . .It's not the years, it's the miles 😁
I have to ask scope, is the spray paint for shooting in a fire?
My dad and mom were both from the mid-west. You kept you car stocked all winter because conditions could change so quickly.
I was also a Boy Scout leader. Trained by military in the ways to survive in nasty conditions. It was called OKPIK, which is Native American for something profound, I am sure.
Also trained as a 1st Responder and in Wilderness First Aid which is defined as 24 hour assistance.
A bug out bag is what you have set aside when you don't know what you'll encounter or how long you'll be gone and is typically 72 hours of self sufficiency. Mine are in 2 containers ready to go at all times.
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"scoped" wrote: I am younger than most here and will normally play a listening / knowledge gathering role but i felt the need to post my couple of cents here.
Being an outdoors type of person - again no pro- but an Eagle Scout -from a real troop not one of these super panzy ones that exist today- and Active shooter a "Go bag"/"Bug out bag" is a no brainer for me and most the people I associate with. Sure with the knowledge and skills I have I could survive in some poor situations but having a few extra pieces of equipment can take a situation from on the edge of survival or possibly death into a much easier to survive, help others to survive -if you so choose-, or even put you in a position where you thrive. Now everyone is entitled to their own opinion but telling someone you should be superman is unrealistic. Last time I check rescue crews don't go into the shit in their flipflops with a cell phone in their shorts pocket. I don't know how other peoples crews run and not being a rescuer, or first responder by day job, or second job, or hobby I may be completely wrong in my thought process and in this statement, but more power to the people who are able to do this flipflops with sunglasses style because your far more legit than I . Now there is no way to be repaired for every situation but having a few standard things -just as having a few basic skills - can really be a help or even a life saver.
I always have in the jeep or on me
some food and water
tool set
a good quality knife -i use this every day-
a good quality multi tool - i use this everyday -
a good quality flashlight and batteries - i use this everyday-
rope and twine/550cord
warm cloths
extra boots
tarp
lighter
matches
gloves
firearm capable of two legged critter protection and the ability to take medium game - sometimes I even keep a full power rifle in the jeep
first aid kit
shovel
axe
spray paint
and a way to easily carry essentials if i must leave the vehicle - a backpack
along with other things - do i need this stuff everyday or every week, No in fact some i have never used and some i hope to never have to use but it just feels empty space thats not needed for anything else and it could one day help
Attached files 
Spray paint is for marking paths or making signs but jeff has done it and I will be swapping out my current load for sunscreen and beach chairs - I conceed
As a former boy scout and professional rescuer I have a small bug out bag that I keep Stocked in my Jeep. In the bag I have a way to make fire, filter water, food for 48 hours and build a small shelter. This is all packed into a backpack. I got the setup from when I was wildland firefighter. We were frequently sent to remote fires where we had to spike out and "survive" for a couple days with what we had on our back. Now when we are deployed we have to be able to be unsupported for 24 hours. We have a bunch of MREs and a cooler full of water. Oh and yes we bring flip flops, for the shower. Too much junk to list but nothing earth shattering. Just the basics. Food, water, clothing, fire, shelter and first aid. Good thread.
I just bring Rob. He has gotten me out of (and into) countless crazy situations. :rasta:
I do have a very small box that I carry in my Jeep in case I break down and have to stay overnight while somebody runs for parts.
It has:
Fire starter stuff
Emergency stove
Small pot to boil water
Emergency water packs
4 Mountain House meals
Flashlight
Several snack items
AND A CANDLE
Snow camping sucks, but I've done a bunch of it. With my fire/food box, a tent, sleeping bag, and shovel, I could easily survive a few days stranded in the snow. The boredom would kill me first 😁
I carry a lot of stuff with me, I have most of these things on the list, but I have been shy on food before. I had bears steal my stuff and other things happen as well. I just want to have a back up catch all plan just in case.
I would add this.
The less your prepared for this situation or any other in life the more you will have to "Cowboy up".
"JohnDF" wrote: Snow camping sucks
THIS!!!!
Snow camping is fun. Survival in snow is something else again. Do the first to get good at the latter.
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"Path 88" wrote: I don't know if you have been following the news on the couple from Citrus Heights that got stuck in the snow up at Burnside rd off hwy 88/89...
Back to the news...sounds like the husband made a stupid call but the gal's brother did whatever it took to save her...
Alpine County Undersheriff Robert Levy said Clifton had recently purchased the 1989 Jeep Cherokee and wanted to try out its four-wheel-drive when he drove around a locked gate blocking access to a road.
Levy said Gary Lane had commandeered a Caltrans front loader parked in a sand shed then drove it several miles along the road until he found his distressed sister.
He loaded her into the bucket of the loader and returned to a small resort on Highway 88.
That's interesting. "commandeered?"
I wonder if they will press charges?
Learned from HAM examiner that he knew the deceased guy as a HAM operator. He was bummed he didn't use or have the HAM for which he may have survived. 😢
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