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Bug out bag/ emergency supplies.
December 7, 2012
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I don't know if you have been following the news on the couple from Citrus Heights that got stuck in the snow up at Burnside rd off hwy 88/89. The driver did not survive but his girlfriend did. She spent almost a week out there. It has got me thinking of a pack that will be in my truck for this type of emergency. I want to use this post to formulate a list of what should be in there as well as things you carry.

Like:

Flash lights/ batteries
MREs
First aid kit (how extensive?)
Water
Blanket
Knife
Rain poncho
Fire starter/ supplies
Change of clothes?
Some cord or rope

What else? I plan on looking up more info too.

December 7, 2012
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First thing I'd add is a buddy. You NEVER off-road, hike, hunt, etc alone. DUMB!!
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December 7, 2012
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"Path 88" wrote:

Flash lights/ batteries
MREs
First aid kit (how extensive?)
Water
Blanket
Knife
Rain poncho
Fire starter/ supplies
Change of clothes?
Some cord or rope

What else? .

Compass
Map of area
Gloves
Hat
Hand saw

Semper Fi

December 7, 2012
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A candle. Burning a candle can keep you from freezing to death.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

December 7, 2012
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"TomD" wrote: First thing I'd add is a buddy. You NEVER off-road, hike, hunt, etc alone. DUMB!!
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Did you read this one Jeff?

Um...what?

December 7, 2012
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Only thing anyone needs in their bag is, "Common Sence" Don't put yourself in a situation where you would need any of that stuff. Nothing can save stupid!!!!

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December 7, 2012
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I didn't know anything about this.

Did the guy have a shovel at least? I mean a shovel and some warm clothing should be all you'd need. You've got unlimited water...

December 7, 2012
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"RobD" wrote: Only thing anyone needs in their bag is, "Common Sence" Don't put yourself in a situation where you would need any of that stuff. Nothing can save stupid!!!!

Rob, common sense includes being prepared for an accident or the unknown. Having a few supplies in your rig for the unknown is correct. Self reliance.

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December 7, 2012
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I think the guy in this case was a poor example of the conditions most of us would encounter based on our decisions. But it does bring to light the benefit of some type of preperation. You never know!

December 7, 2012
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"Path 88" wrote: I don't know if you have been following the news on the couple from Citrus Heights that got stuck in the snow up at Burnside rd off hwy 88/89. The driver did not survive but his girlfriend did. She spent almost a week out there. It has got me thinking of a pack that will be in my truck for this type of emergency. I want to use this post to formulate a list of what should be in there as well as things you carry.

Like:

Flash lights/ batteries
MREs
First aid kit (how extensive?)
Water
Blanket
Knife
Rain poncho
Fire starter/ supplies
Change of clothes?
Some cord or rope

What else? I plan on looking up more info too.

Where are the details on this story? I hadn't heard anything...

December 7, 2012
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http://www.kcra.com/news/Mom-details-re ... index.html

Here's a small article on it but I'm not sure if it's the whole store. Sounds like idiots to me. No offense.

Um...what?

December 7, 2012
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The story I read on this the guy was just driving home from a relatives house. He had no business taking a detour during a storm to see the "sights" common sense and he is still alive. I agree with the notion of a survival bag in your car at all times. Just basic stuff a blanket, map, MREs, First aid Kit, and this guy is still alive. Actually if he had some training he probably would stil be alive. I'm sure there was plenty in his truck to keep him alive. I've heard of people burning tires, using hub caps as shovels, etc.. Gas is flamable, lighters or sparks from jumper cables to get a fire going etc.. I would rip my car apart before I die in the snow. A saw and a blanket, some twine, an MRE would sure help too. I think this guy had options he just may not have realized it.

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December 7, 2012
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Having a go bag usually means you shouldn't be where you are. If you don't know how to actually survive in the outdoors on your own unassisted, you shouldn't be out there anyway (stay on the freeways). How many of you have actually camped in Severe snow conditions besides “Bender”? You talk about burning tires, seats, gas, etc. That’s all good for about 20 minutes. Where are you going to get the fire wood to survive for days, where are you going to get food, water, how are you going to stay warm when the snow is blowing sideways? Having a change of clothes and a blanket might work for a while.
Bottom line, unless you are experienced, stay out of situations that could jeopardize your life or the lives of people who might have to go rescue you. If you are going camping, take the gear you need, but a Go Bag is a yuppie word if you ask me. Just my opinion!! As a Search and Rescue Coordinator with the Sheriff's Office and having extensive outdoor survival skills, 99% of the people we rescue thought they were prepared because they read it somewhere on the internet. I have yet to rescue someone who knew what they were doing!

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December 7, 2012
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Haha!! Your funny Rob. Just out of curiosity, where did you get your outdoor survivor skills? I would be interested in getting some of the same training.

Um...what?

December 7, 2012
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"JohnDF" wrote: A candle. Burning a candle can keep you from freezing to death.

Interesting. I have just about everything listed in this thread (plus more) in my truck at all times but it never crossed my mind to include something as simple as a candle. My wife's car isn't quite as stocked as mine but we could live for days on the crumbs the kids drop between the seats. 8)

December 7, 2012
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Most of our training comes through Cal E.M.A., US Army, and the Tahoe Nordic Search and Rescue team. We also do regional training with all the surrounding County Sheriff Search and Rescue teams.

"finder_87" wrote: Haha!! Your funny Rob. Just out of curiosity, where did you get your outdoor survivor skills? I would be interested in getting some of the same training.

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December 7, 2012
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I can't help it. I was going to bite my tongue, but Rob post bothers me to much.

Let me get this straight, so having spare emergency supplies in your vehicle is dumb and a yuppie thing to do. Your reasoning is that of we might need it then we didn't belong there anyway? That makes no sense to me. For example if I get a flat an have rouse my spare tire, I should not be where I hit the flat??? I've had a flat in the Walmart parking lot before (okay, bad example, Walmart is a scary place).

Let's be honest, anybody can join search and rescue and volunteer to be bossed around by you.

You don't really know the background on everybody on the board and for you to throw us all in a yuppie category is ignorant.

I've spent several nights in harsh conditions. I'm not saying I'm a pro at it but I have had experience dealing with bad weather in the wilderness. I know there are others on the board as well that have the same experiences.

Lastly, isn't it the job of law enforcement to educate the public. Teach the public how not to be victims? Well, your not educating us by telling us not to have a bag of emergency supplies stored in our vehicle just in case of an emergency.

Sorry for the rant, sometimes I get sick of people that take every opportunity they can to prove to world that they think they're a bada$$.

Um...what?

December 7, 2012
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I find it interesting the wide diversity of opinions and suggestions here.

In my truck I carry four blankets, a shovel, bungee cords/ratchet straps and jumper cables.
In my jeep I carry a shovel, blankets, spare tools/parts and jumber cables.

My Rubicon Fiasco (which Rob was unfortunately part of) was largely due to me failing to carry my normal ratchet tie downs. If I had brought them, I'd have been off the trail in 20 minutes and likely just driven home with the set up. As it was, I wasted two + hours of Rob and Scott's time. Then I had to wait for a tow truck and didn't get home until after 10PM...

December 7, 2012
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"finder_87" wrote: http://www.kcra.com/news/Mom-d.....index.html

Here's a small article on it but I'm not sure if it's the whole store. Sounds like idiots to me. No offense.

Thanks for the article. I hadn't heard about it.

December 7, 2012
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Feel better now lol

"finder_87" wrote: I can't help it. I was going to bite my tongue, but Rob post bothers me to much.

Let me get this straight, so having spare emergency supplies in your vehicle is dumb and a yuppie thing to do. Your reasoning is that of we might need it then we didn't belong there anyway? That makes no sense to me. For example if I get a flat an have rouse my spare tire, I should not be where I hit the flat??? I've had a flat in the Walmart parking lot before (okay, bad example, Walmart is a scary place).

Let's be honest, anybody can join search and rescue and volunteer to be bossed around by you.

You don't really know the background on everybody on the board and for you to throw us all in a yuppie category is ignorant.

I've spent several nights in harsh conditions. I'm not saying I'm a pro at it but I have had experience dealing with bad weather in the wilderness. I know there are others on the board as well that have the same experiences.

Lastly, isn't it the job of law enforcement to educate the public. Teach the public how not to be victims? Well, your not educating us by telling us not to have a bag of emergency supplies stored in our vehicle just in case of an emergency.

Sorry for the rant, sometimes I get sick of people that take every opportunity they can to prove to world that they think they're a bada$$.

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December 8, 2012
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I do. Sorry for the typos, that was typing while on an exercise bike at my physical therapists. No hard feelings Rob, I like you and I have heard good things about you. But I still feel that being prepared for anything is never a bad thing.

Um...what?

December 8, 2012
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I was a Boy Scout mr-green

I used to wheel a lot. . .

December 8, 2012
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I am younger than most here and will normally play a listening / knowledge gathering role but i felt the need to post my couple of cents here.

Being an outdoors type of person - again no pro- but an Eagle Scout -from a real troop not one of these super panzy ones that exist today- and Active shooter a "Go bag"/"Bug out bag" is a no brainer for me and most the people I associate with. Sure with the knowledge and skills I have I could survive in some poor situations but having a few extra pieces of equipment can take a situation from on the edge of survival or possibly death into a much easier to survive, help others to survive -if you so choose-, or even put you in a position where you thrive. Now everyone is entitled to their own opinion but telling someone you should be superman is unrealistic. Last time I check rescue crews don't go into the shit in their flipflops with a cell phone in their shorts pocket. I don't know how other peoples crews run and not being a rescuer, or first responder by day job, or second job, or hobby I may be completely wrong in my thought process and in this statement, but more power to the people who are able to do this flipflops with sunglasses style because your far more legit than I . Now there is no way to be repaired for every situation but having a few standard things -just as having a few basic skills - can really be a help or even a life saver.

I always have in the jeep or on me

some food and water
tool set
a good quality knife -i use this every day-
a good quality multi tool - i use this everyday -
a good quality flashlight and batteries - i use this everyday-
rope and twine/550cord
warm cloths
extra boots
tarp
lighter
matches
gloves
firearm capable of two legged critter protection and the ability to take medium game - sometimes I even keep a full power rifle in the jeep
first aid kit
shovel
axe
spray paint
and a way to easily carry essentials if i must leave the vehicle - a backpack
along with other things - do i need this stuff everyday or every week, No in fact some i have never used and some i hope to never have to use but it just feels empty space thats not needed for anything else and it could one day help

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Ya, but back then people were still crossing the country in covered wagons lol

"JohnDF" wrote: I was a Boy Scout mr-green

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Nice list Scoped, but you still forgot the candle! Eagle Scout you say?

I used to wheel a lot. . .

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