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Bug out bag/ emergency supplies.

  1. Jeff- that guy with the foolsize Subscriber
    #16 Dec 2012, 10:05 PM

    I don't know if you have been following the news on the couple from Citrus Heights that got stuck in the snow up at Burnside rd off hwy 88/89. The driver did not survive but his girlfriend did. She spent almost a week out there. It has got me thinking of a pack that will be in my truck for this type of emergency. I want to use this post to formulate a list of what should be in there as well as things you carry.



    Like:



    Flash lights/ batteries

    MREs

    First aid kit (how extensive?)

    Water

    Blanket

    Knife

    Rain poncho

    Fire starter/ supplies

    Change of clothes?

    Some cord or rope



    What else? I plan on looking up more info too.

  2. Tom Subscriber
    #26 Dec 2012, 10:12 PM

    First thing I'd add is a buddy. You NEVER off-road, hike, hunt, etc alone. DUMB!!

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    If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading -- Lao Tzu
  3. Josh Subscriber
    #36 Dec 2012, 10:29 PM
    "Path 88" wrote:

    Flash lights/ batteries
    MREs
    First aid kit (how extensive?)
    Water
    Blanket
    Knife
    Rain poncho
    Fire starter/ supplies
    Change of clothes?
    Some cord or rope

    What else? .



    Compass

    Map of area

    Gloves

    Hat

    Hand saw

    Semper Fi
  4. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #47 Dec 2012, 5:21 AM

    A candle. Burning a candle can keep you from freezing to death.

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  5. Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012
    #57 Dec 2012, 6:19 AM
    "TomD" wrote: First thing I'd add is a buddy. You NEVER off-road, hike, hunt, etc alone. DUMB!!
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    Did you read this one Jeff?

    Um...what?
  6. RobD Subscriber
    #67 Dec 2012, 7:02 AM

    Only thing anyone needs in their bag is, "Common Sence" Don't put yourself in a situation where you would need any of that stuff. Nothing can save stupid!!!!

    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  7. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #77 Dec 2012, 9:29 AM

    I didn't know anything about this.



    Did the guy have a shovel at least? I mean a shovel and some warm clothing should be all you'd need. You've got unlimited water...

    Kathleen and Brad
  8. Josh Subscriber
    #87 Dec 2012, 10:29 AM
    "RobD" wrote: Only thing anyone needs in their bag is, "Common Sence" Don't put yourself in a situation where you would need any of that stuff. Nothing can save stupid!!!!



    Rob, common sense includes being prepared for an accident or the unknown. Having a few supplies in your rig for the unknown is correct. Self reliance.

    Semper Fi
  9. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #97 Dec 2012, 10:50 AM

    I think the guy in this case was a poor example of the conditions most of us would encounter based on our decisions. But it does bring to light the benefit of some type of preperation. You never know!

    Kathleen and Brad
  10. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #107 Dec 2012, 10:51 AM
    "Path 88" wrote: I don't know if you have been following the news on the couple from Citrus Heights that got stuck in the snow up at Burnside rd off hwy 88/89. The driver did not survive but his girlfriend did. She spent almost a week out there. It has got me thinking of a pack that will be in my truck for this type of emergency. I want to use this post to formulate a list of what should be in there as well as things you carry.

    Like:

    Flash lights/ batteries
    MREs
    First aid kit (how extensive?)
    Water
    Blanket
    Knife
    Rain poncho
    Fire starter/ supplies
    Change of clothes?
    Some cord or rope

    What else? I plan on looking up more info too.





    Where are the details on this story? I hadn't heard anything...

    Kathleen and Brad
  11. huck271 Subscriber
    #127 Dec 2012, 12:55 PM

    The story I read on this the guy was just driving home from a relatives house. He had no business taking a detour during a storm to see the "sights" common sense and he is still alive. I agree with the notion of a survival bag in your car at all times. Just basic stuff a blanket, map, MREs, First aid Kit, and this guy is still alive. Actually if he had some training he probably would stil be alive. I'm sure there was plenty in his truck to keep him alive. I've heard of people burning tires, using hub caps as shovels, etc.. Gas is flamable, lighters or sparks from jumper cables to get a fire going etc.. I would rip my car apart before I die in the snow. A saw and a blanket, some twine, an MRE would sure help too. I think this guy had options he just may not have realized it.



    Huck

  12. RobD Subscriber
    #137 Dec 2012, 1:49 PM

    Having a go bag usually means you shouldn't be where you are. If you don't know how to actually survive in the outdoors on your own unassisted, you shouldn't be out there anyway (stay on the freeways). How many of you have actually camped in Severe snow conditions besides “Bender”? You talk about burning tires, seats, gas, etc. That’s all good for about 20 minutes. Where are you going to get the fire wood to survive for days, where are you going to get food, water, how are you going to stay warm when the snow is blowing sideways? Having a change of clothes and a blanket might work for a while.

    Bottom line, unless you are experienced, stay out of situations that could jeopardize your life or the lives of people who might have to go rescue you. If you are going camping, take the gear you need, but a Go Bag is a yuppie word if you ask me. Just my opinion!! As a Search and Rescue Coordinator with the Sheriff's Office and having extensive outdoor survival skills, 99% of the people we rescue thought they were prepared because they read it somewhere on the internet. I have yet to rescue someone who knew what they were doing!







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    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  13. Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012
    #147 Dec 2012, 2:00 PM

    Haha!! Your funny Rob. Just out of curiosity, where did you get your outdoor survivor skills? I would be interested in getting some of the same training.

    Um...what?
  14. Guest former user
    #157 Dec 2012, 2:47 PM
    "JohnDF" wrote: A candle. Burning a candle can keep you from freezing to death.

    Interesting. I have just about everything listed in this thread (plus more) in my truck at all times but it never crossed my mind to include something as simple as a candle. My wife's car isn't quite as stocked as mine but we could live for days on the crumbs the kids drop between the seats. 😎

  15. RobD Subscriber
    #167 Dec 2012, 3:02 PM

    Most of our training comes through Cal E.M.A., US Army, and the Tahoe Nordic Search and Rescue team. We also do regional training with all the surrounding County Sheriff Search and Rescue teams.



    "finder_87" wrote: Haha!! Your funny Rob. Just out of curiosity, where did you get your outdoor survivor skills? I would be interested in getting some of the same training.

    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  16. Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012
    #177 Dec 2012, 3:07 PM

    I can't help it. I was going to bite my tongue, but Rob post bothers me to much.



    Let me get this straight, so having spare emergency supplies in your vehicle is dumb and a yuppie thing to do. Your reasoning is that of we might need it then we didn't belong there anyway? That makes no sense to me. For example if I get a flat an have rouse my spare tire, I should not be where I hit the flat??? I've had a flat in the Walmart parking lot before (okay, bad example, Walmart is a scary place).



    Let's be honest, anybody can join search and rescue and volunteer to be bossed around by you.



    You don't really know the background on everybody on the board and for you to throw us all in a yuppie category is ignorant.



    I've spent several nights in harsh conditions. I'm not saying I'm a pro at it but I have had experience dealing with bad weather in the wilderness. I know there are others on the board as well that have the same experiences.



    Lastly, isn't it the job of law enforcement to educate the public. Teach the public how not to be victims? Well, your not educating us by telling us not to have a bag of emergency supplies stored in our vehicle just in case of an emergency.



    Sorry for the rant, sometimes I get sick of people that take every opportunity they can to prove to world that they think they're a bada$$.

    Um...what?
  17. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #187 Dec 2012, 3:10 PM

    I find it interesting the wide diversity of opinions and suggestions here.



    In my truck I carry four blankets, a shovel, bungee cords/ratchet straps and jumper cables.

    In my jeep I carry a shovel, blankets, spare tools/parts and jumber cables.



    My Rubicon Fiasco (which Rob was unfortunately part of) was largely due to me failing to carry my normal ratchet tie downs. If I had brought them, I'd have been off the trail in 20 minutes and likely just driven home with the set up. As it was, I wasted two + hours of Rob and Scott's time. Then I had to wait for a tow truck and didn't get home until after 10PM...

    Kathleen and Brad
  18. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #197 Dec 2012, 3:20 PM
    "finder_87" wrote: http://www.kcra.com/news/Mom-details-rescue-Woman-saved-by-brother-man-dies-in-Sierra/-/11797728/17674522/-/l810po/-/index.html

    Here's a small article on it but I'm not sure if it's the whole store. Sounds like idiots to me. No offense.



    Thanks for the article. I hadn't heard about it.

    Kathleen and Brad
  19. RobD Subscriber
    #207 Dec 2012, 3:20 PM

    Feel better now 😂



    "finder_87" wrote: I can't help it. I was going to bite my tongue, but Rob post bothers me to much.



    Let me get this straight, so having spare emergency supplies in your vehicle is dumb and a yuppie thing to do. Your reasoning is that of we might need it then we didn't belong there anyway? That makes no sense to me. For example if I get a flat an have rouse my spare tire, I should not be where I hit the flat??? I've had a flat in the Walmart parking lot before (okay, bad example, Walmart is a scary place).



    Let's be honest, anybody can join search and rescue and volunteer to be bossed around by you.



    You don't really know the background on everybody on the board and for you to throw us all in a yuppie category is ignorant.



    I've spent several nights in harsh conditions. I'm not saying I'm a pro at it but I have had experience dealing with bad weather in the wilderness. I know there are others on the board as well that have the same experiences.



    Lastly, isn't it the job of law enforcement to educate the public. Teach the public how not to be victims? Well, your not educating us by telling us not to have a bag of emergency supplies stored in our vehicle just in case of an emergency.



    Sorry for the rant, sometimes I get sick of people that take every opportunity they can to prove to world that they think they're a bada$$.

    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  20. Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012
    #217 Dec 2012, 4:43 PM

    I do. Sorry for the typos, that was typing while on an exercise bike at my physical therapists. No hard feelings Rob, I like you and I have heard good things about you. But I still feel that being prepared for anything is never a bad thing.

    Um...what?
  21. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #227 Dec 2012, 4:51 PM

    I was a Boy Scout 😁

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  22. scoped Subscriber
    #237 Dec 2012, 4:59 PM

    I am younger than most here and will normally play a listening / knowledge gathering role but i felt the need to post my couple of cents here.



    Being an outdoors type of person - again no pro- but an Eagle Scout -from a real troop not one of these super panzy ones that exist today- and Active shooter a "Go bag"/"Bug out bag" is a no brainer for me and most the people I associate with. Sure with the knowledge and skills I have I could survive in some poor situations but having a few extra pieces of equipment can take a situation from on the edge of survival or possibly death into a much easier to survive, help others to survive -if you so choose-, or even put you in a position where you thrive. Now everyone is entitled to their own opinion but telling someone you should be superman is unrealistic. Last time I check rescue crews don't go into the shit in their flipflops with a cell phone in their shorts pocket. I don't know how other peoples crews run and not being a rescuer, or first responder by day job, or second job, or hobby I may be completely wrong in my thought process and in this statement, but more power to the people who are able to do this flipflops with sunglasses style because your far more legit than I . Now there is no way to be repaired for every situation but having a few standard things -just as having a few basic skills - can really be a help or even a life saver.



    I always have in the jeep or on me



    some food and water

    tool set

    a good quality knife -i use this every day-

    a good quality multi tool - i use this everyday -

    a good quality flashlight and batteries - i use this everyday-

    rope and twine/550cord

    warm cloths

    extra boots

    tarp

    lighter

    matches

    gloves

    firearm capable of two legged critter protection and the ability to take medium game - sometimes I even keep a full power rifle in the jeep

    first aid kit

    shovel

    axe

    spray paint

    and a way to easily carry essentials if i must leave the vehicle - a backpack

    along with other things - do i need this stuff everyday or every week, No in fact some i have never used and some i hope to never have to use but it just feels empty space thats not needed for anything else and it could one day help

  23. RobD Subscriber
    #247 Dec 2012, 5:04 PM

    Ya, but back then people were still crossing the country in covered wagons 😂



    "JohnDF" wrote: I was a Boy Scout 😁

    __________________ 'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
  24. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #257 Dec 2012, 5:47 PM

    Nice list Scoped, but you still forgot the candle! Eagle Scout you say?

    I used to wheel a lot. . .

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