I have read a bit about this but am having a hard time understanding if it will affect our AT, XT and MT tires. I saw something about a deep tread exception, not sure the definition of this. Can anyone help explain it to me?
California Energy Commission Replacement Tire Efficiency Program
Calaveras32Spcl Member Joined: May 2023Calaveras32Spcl Member Joined: May 2023Dale Mogg - WRZG209
Jeff_R Member Joined: October 2016Jeff_R Member Joined: October 2016https://www.kcra.com/article/california-energy-commission-tire-efficiency-rules/73456508
There are some exclusions to the new rules, according to the CEC:
- Competition tires designed for motorsports
- Winter-type snow tires
- All-season winter performance tires
- Used and retreaded tires
- Deep tread tires
- Tires designed for ATVs and other off-road vehicles
- Large off-road tires for use up to 99 mph
- Motorcycle tires
- Temporary-use spare tires
- Small tires with ≤13-inch nominal rim diameter
- Limited production tires (<15,000 per year)
- Tires sold for use on an emergency vehicle
- High load index tires (122 or greater)
- Tires not capable of sustaining speeds over 50 mph
- Space saver tires
Jeff and Kathy Root
Calaveras32Spcl Member Joined: May 2023Calaveras32Spcl started this Member Joined: May 2023I looked at that list of exceptions, and maybe our tires are covered. I just don't know.
Dale Mogg - WRZG209
BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003I don’t see an off road or truck impact.
Passenger cars and SUVs not using seasonal tires could see an impact. But we already have tire options for improved mileage for those types of vehicles.
So i don’t see really much of an impact. Maybe dropping the lowest quality/price tires for passenger cars?
Kathleen and Brad
kris_olof Trailmaster Joined: October 2015kris_olof Trailmaster Joined: October 2015To me this is a good thing because tire companies have consolidated and have moved away from treating them like engineered products. With regulation coming from the trade association and now treat them like consumer goods and whether or not they will get sued for selling crap. They basically have a choice to allow states to regulate them and be forced to stop selling the cheapest crappy tires or they need to fight the regulation and bring the trade association back into play. Corporations will do what they do and raise prices but they already do that at every oil shock and they never go back down so none of that is reflective of the realities of production cost anyway. The real target are the no-name replacement commuter car tires that are 20% cheaper but cost a couple of MPG.
While cheap load C 33 inch tires without the 3 peak rating (aka buckshot type MTs) are subject to the regulation, all the 37s seem to exceed the 122 load index and would not be subject to the regulation including the off-brand crap tires. 35s are split to which meet the index exemption.
Jeff_R Member Joined: October 2016Jeff_R Member Joined: October 2016How many new tire shops will open up in Nevada near the border?
Jeff and Kathy Root
Gilbert & Betty Member Joined: September 2014Gilbert & Betty Member Joined: September 2014A day trip to Reno is never out of the question. 😀
kris_olof Trailmaster Joined: October 2015kris_olof Trailmaster Joined: October 2015These tires have only 5,000 miles on them. My landscaping contractor bought them for $400 less than his last set of name brand tires which only got 20k miles out of. At this point he is looking at less than 10k life and net higher cost per mile. Literally nobody is served by these crap tires than the tire shops that get paid to swap them. This is the kind of thing DOT regulations should actually focus on.
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