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No bailout!?

  1. Guest former user
    #516 Oct 2008, 1:50 PM
    "gamfam" wrote: The bailout is not a "fix". It's a transfusion to keep the blood (cashflow) circulating while the government stops the bleeding. They can't begin the healing process unless they first stop the bleeding.



    The problem is that I'm not convinced it is anywhere near stopping the bleeding. It was a poorly put together, hastily reviewed bill that no one really understands. The president and company used the same old scare tactics that they've been pushing around for a while to convince people that the sky is falling (which it is). But their solution is to throw money at it without a whole heck of a lot of thought. Something had to be done, this is just more of the same "pass it on to the next generation of tax payers" that we've been pulling for a long time. The baby boomers and their economics brought this on the Country and they're going to pay a very small price for it compared to my generation. ๐Ÿ˜ค Don't get me started on baby boomers. :censor:



    Another stimulus package...geez. I also read that B of A is going to give people that were "bullied" by Countrywide some sort of settlement that helps with the crummy mortgages that they signed up for.

  2. JohnDF Subscriber
    #526 Oct 2008, 1:54 PM

    I got a good loan through Countrywide ๐Ÿ˜›

    but mine was set up by the teachers association

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  3. Guest former user
    #536 Oct 2008, 2:04 PM

    I fully agree that it was done hastily and under duress. The President & Company? Don't forget the Dem's have control of the Senate.



    In any case when you're out of oil but HAVE to run you're engine, you are forced to pour oil into it whether you like it or not. I see this as the same situation. Nobody likes it, but they understand that they HAVE to keep pouring oil into it, until they can figure out where the leaks are.



    OK, I'm out of stupid analogies . . .



    All I'm worried about is my free lunch! jk

  4. Fred Subscriber
    #546 Oct 2008, 2:08 PM
    "JohnDF" wrote: I got a good loan through Countrywide ๐Ÿ˜›



    Our mortgage is currently held by Countrywide but they're something like the 3rd or 4th holders of our mortgage. It's a good low interest fixed rate mortgage. But I can't believe how many insanely low variable rate offers Countrywide still sends us. Granted, its cut back a bit recently, but we still get them.

  5. Guest former user
    #556 Oct 2008, 2:26 PM
    "FAM" wrote: [quote="JohnDF"]I got a good loan through Countrywide ๐Ÿ˜›



    Our mortgage is currently held by Countrywide but they're something like the 3rd or 4th holders of our mortgage. It's a good low interest fixed rate mortgage. But I can't believe how many insanely low variable rate offers Countrywide still sends us. Granted, its cut back a bit recently, but we still get them.



    Yep, stay with the fixed!!!



    These underwriters are out of control, trying to pimp as many loans as they can. From my point of view, the more regulations, the less freedom of the market (I think thatโ€™s bad). But these guys are begging to be regulated. People should go to jail for what they've pulled.



    OK, two bad analogies and a soapbox. Bender, you're up!!

  6. Guest former user
    #566 Oct 2008, 2:37 PM
    "gamfam" wrote: The President & Company?



    I meant "company" about as generally as it could be (Bush, Paulson, Bernanke, Pelosi, McCain, Obama, etc.). I don't see this as a partisan problem. This is a greed/spending run amuck problem. I'm about as fiscally conservative as it gets. At this point neither major party can say that.



    John/Fred, I think you guys need to start complaining about how you were takend advantage of by predatory lending practices. From what I've heard, they're talking about lowering interest rates in some cases.



    "gamfam" wrote: In any case when you're out of oil but HAVE to run you're engine, you are forced to pour oil into it whether you like it or not. I see this as the same situation. Nobody likes it, but they understand that they HAVE to keep pouring oil into it, until they can figure out where the leaks are.



    The problem is that they're pouring olive oil in.



    Ha! Two can play the analogy game! ๐Ÿ™‚

  7. JohnDF Subscriber
    #576 Oct 2008, 2:53 PM

    The worst is the credit card companies. They won't leave me alone. I don't have any credit card bills and they can't stand it ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  8. JohnDF Subscriber
    #586 Oct 2008, 2:54 PM
    "Bender" wrote:

    John, I think you need to start complaining about how you were takend advantage of by predatory lending practices. From what I've heard, they're talking about lowering interest rates in some cases. ๐Ÿ™‚



    I don't need any handouts...that's what liberals take ๐Ÿ˜€

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  9. Guest former user
    #596 Oct 2008, 2:54 PM
    "Bender" wrote: The problem is that they're pouring olive oil in.

    Ha! Two can play the analogy game! ๐Ÿ™‚



    ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

  10. Guest former user
    #606 Oct 2008, 3:01 PM
    "JohnDF" wrote: I don't need any handouts...that's what liberals take ๐Ÿ˜€



    It's not a "hand out" it's a "hand up". ๐Ÿคฎ

  11. JohnDF Subscriber
    #616 Oct 2008, 3:17 PM
    "Bender" wrote: [quote="JohnDF"]I don't need any handouts...that's what liberals take ๐Ÿ˜€



    It's not a "hand out" it's a "hand up". ๐Ÿคฎ

    It's a hand ...nevermind ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  12. Guest former user
    #626 Oct 2008, 3:56 PM
    "Bender" wrote: [quote="gamfam"]The President & Company?



    I meant "company" about as generally as it could be (Bush, Paulson, Bernanke, Pelosi, McCain, Obama, etc.). I don't see this as a partisan problem. This is a greed/spending run amuck problem. I'm about as fiscally conservative as it gets. At this point neither major party can say that.



    John/Fred, I think you guys need to start complaining about how you were takend advantage of by predatory lending practices. From what I've heard, they're talking about lowering interest rates in some cases.



    "gamfam" wrote: In any case when you're out of oil but HAVE to run you're engine, you are forced to pour oil into it whether you like it or not. I see this as the same situation. Nobody likes it, but they understand that they HAVE to keep pouring oil into it, until they can figure out where the leaks are.



    The problem is that they're pouring olive oil in.



    Ha! Two can play the analogy game! ๐Ÿ™‚



    I though olive oil was good for you. bad analogy. ๐Ÿ˜‚

  13. Guest former user
    #636 Oct 2008, 4:09 PM

    What's the viscosity rating of Olive Oil?

  14. Guest former user
    #646 Oct 2008, 4:48 PM
    "gamfam" wrote: What's the viscosity rating of Olive Oil?



    Different than motor oil. ๐Ÿ˜€

  15. Guest former user
    #657 Oct 2008, 7:47 AM

    you should of said something like sand. they use olive oil on the space shuttle.

  16. Guest former user
    #667 Oct 2008, 7:50 AM
    "lowrider" wrote: you should of said something like sand. they use olive oil on the space shuttle.



    Olive oil is perfect the perfect analogy. It sounds like it should work, but we really not sure, it might work for a while, but it may also just catch fire and burn the car to the ground. It doesn't help the real problem, but, it makes people think you're doing something.

  17. Guest former user
    #677 Oct 2008, 2:09 PM

    Down another 500+ points today. ๐Ÿ™„



    Maybe they actually used baby oil.

  18. Guest former user
    #687 Oct 2008, 2:17 PM

    Expect it to continue down another 1500 - 2000 points before it bottoms out.

  19. JohnDF Subscriber
    #697 Oct 2008, 4:42 PM

    At least the Dollar is remaining strong. You'd expect it to go down, but Europe and Japan are in the tank too.

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  20. Guest former user
    #707 Oct 2008, 5:00 PM
    "JohnDF" wrote: At least the Dollar is remaining strong. You'd expect it to go down, but Europe and Japan are in the tank too.



    Strong relative to where it's been for a while. In the tank compared to where it was a couple of years ago.

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