School me on trailers.

"RobD" wrote: [quote="Justin"]This borrowing a trailer thing has me all messed up. I hate borrowing stuff. Now I want to buy a trailer. I see 16' tandem axle trailers brand new going for $2000. Are these any good. What do you all recommend I look for when buying a trailer? I want to go as small and cheap as possible.
How about something like this?
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/575466564.html

Watch out talking about towing your Jeep, next thing you know, everyone will be calling you a trailer queen and you will want to hack up your Jeep and you won't be be one of the cool kids anymore 😂

Go Trailer queen or Go Home! 😲

"FAM" wrote: [quote="JohnDF"][quote="FAM"]Until you're in an accident, someone gets hurt or killed, and some lawyer sues you for being criminally negligent.

I live on the edge 😉

Deciding to drive an overloaded vehicle is one thing. Would you want someone else's overloaded vehicle anywhere around your family on the highway?

What about all Jeeps and trucks out there that are driving around on bigger that stock tires and brakes that are not sufficient to stop the vehicle in an emergency, modified suspension components that could fail, modified steering components etc, etc, etc. Do we want them driving around our families? Lets just take everyone off the road except hybreds 🙄

Myself...I would get the biggest trailer I could afford and fit on the side of my house. But then again I am biased since I pull around a 53' trailer all day long. A 14 or 16 foot trailer is a waste of cash. Ask the guy why he is selling it and if you can get the truth out of him he would say he is moving up to a bigger trailer. A bigger trailer will give you more room to put stuff and even out that load. They are more stable going down the road and are a lot easier to back.



Rob brings up some good points about all our homebuilt vehicles and are they really as safe as we think they are on the road. I have to agree with Fred though that buying a trailer too small for your needs and intentionally overloading it just because you are trying to save a few dollars is stupid. I see more that a few guys hauling their boats, 4x4's, travel trailers with no idea on what they are doing. They are in the wrong lane, they are doing 65+ and have no clue that if and when something goes wrong they are literally along for the ride. You don't save a trailer or tractor jacknife.



Whatever you do, do it right and do it safe. Don't buy something too small and expect to overload it and have it tow like a dream. It can end up being a long, white knuckle ride when you don't have the proper equipment and leave you wishing you would have got something a little bigger.

"RobD" wrote:

What about all Jeeps and trucks out there that are driving around on bigger that stock tires and brakes that are not sufficient to stop the vehicle in an emergency, modified suspension components that could fail, modified steering components etc, etc, etc.

Or even worse, how about running one of those off road sway bars. Even the manufacturer states they are less effective for use on the street 😲

"JohnDF" wrote: [quote="RobD"]

What about all Jeeps and trucks out there that are driving around on bigger that stock tires and brakes that are not sufficient to stop the vehicle in an emergency, modified suspension components that could fail, modified steering components etc, etc, etc.

Or even worse, how about running one of those off road sway bars. Even the manufacturer states they are less effective for use on the street 😲

Ya, I heard running an Antirock on the street is sure suicide 😂 O-ya, what about those guys not running a rear sway bar talk? about dangerous 😉

How about those guys not running a front sway bar. NUTTS!!!! 😉

Now......if I go buy this trailer......how the heck am I going to get it home? Tow it with my Jeep? 😲

"Justin" wrote:
Now......if I go buy this trailer......how the heck am I going to get it home? Tow it with my Jeep? 😲

What's the tow rating on your Jeep? 😂



If you buy it, I'm sure either Rob or I can get it home for you.

"JohnDF" wrote: Tow ratings are guidelines.

In the legal sense, that's just flat wrong.



We've all done stupid things and gotten away with it more than a few times. Given the chance, you might as well do it right. It's worth a few extra bucks.

"JohnDF" wrote: [quote="Justin"]
Now......if I go buy this trailer......how the heck am I going to get it home? Tow it with my Jeep? 😲

What's the tow rating on your Jeep? 😂

If it's empty, the trailer can't weigh that much. I'd imagine the Jeep could handle it.

We are not talking about the trailer rating, we are talking about the vehicle tow rating. It would cost him more than a few bucks to up the tow rating on his parents motor home 😲 Besides, that beast must have a decent tow rating.

"JohnDF" wrote: We are not talking about the trailer rating, we are talking about the vehicle tow rating. It would cost him more than a few bucks to up the tow rating on his parents motor home 😲 Besides, that beast must have a decent tow rating.

Quit hijacking things. 😀 Now we're talking about towing the trailer home after he buys it. It can't weight more than 2000 lbs empty right (even that seems high)? The Jeep should be rated for that.

And, how many of us have our tires completely covered by our fenders/flares? That is also illegal for safety reasons. Are we ALL irresponsible?

"Bender" wrote:

Quit hijacking things. 😀 Now we're talking about towing the trailer home after he buys it. It can't weight more than 2000 lbs empty right (even that seems high)? The Jeep should be rated for that.

His Jeep is rated to tow 2,500 lbs. But, then you have the length of the vehicle towing the trailer to worry about 😉

Hijack: Fred, can we get a beating a dead horse emoticon? 😀

"JohnDF" wrote: His Jeep is rated to tow 2,500 lbs. But, then you have the length of the vehicle towing the trailer to worry about 😉

:?: 🤔

That's it!! I am going to put a hitch on my Honda and go pick up the trailer.

"Bender" wrote: Hijack: Fred, can we get a beating a dead horse emoticon:

Shame on you. That's endorsing animal abuse 😉

"JohnDF" wrote: And, how many of us have our tires completely covered by our fenders/flares? That is also illegal for safety reasons. Are we ALL irresponsible?

yes. yes you are. there take that mr.!

LJ's should be rated for 3500 lbs towing. TJ's are only 2500 lbs. Robs truck could tow the trailer, LJ and the Honda. 😎



If you put a Hino diesel in the RV, it could tow 14,000 lbs. Would that meet Justin's needs?

"Justin" wrote: That's it!! I am going to put a hitch on my Honda and go pick up the trailer.

WWJD?

"lowrider" wrote: [quote="Justin"]That's it!! I am going to put a hitch on my Honda and go pick up the trailer.

WWJD?

He'd tow it! 😲

"JohnDF" wrote: Shame on you. That's endorsing animal abuse 😉

No, I’m going to eat the horse later. I’m just tenderizing it. 😂



So…maybe I’m wrong…and maybe this is a different thread, but I truly see a difference between using a vehicle beyond its rated capacity and using after market, not DOT approved, parts. In my mind the difference is that in one case, one activity has been evaluated and been shown to be unsafe. The vehicle has been designed for a specific job. In the other case, no official testing has been undertaken to secure the necessary approvals. In the second case the parts may or may not have a negative effect on the performance of the vehicle. The user must evaluate things on a case by case basis.



And, some laws are just stupid, so there. 😀 In Nevada, you don’t have to cover your tires, and you can tow a heck of a lot more with a class C license, BUT, you still can’t tow beyond your vehicles rated capacity.



Having the proper equipment is a good idea. I know a guy that borrowed a trailer from someone and towed it to Southern California with a Jeep on it. Turns out the tires on the trailer weren’t rated for the weight he had on it and after multiple flat tires, he lost two of them pretty violently. He nearly lost the trailer and the Jeep on it. He was darn lucky that he was towing the load with a vehicle big enough to handle it. If he had been towing it with a ½ ton truck I’m not sure that the day would have end at a tire shop instead of an emergency room.

OK Here it is.

The LJ is rated to tow 3500lbs. (could be different with the modifications and Hansen bumper).

The motorhome is rated to tow 10000lbs

My Kawasaki can tow about 100lbs

And, I don't think I want to tow with my Honda Accord.

And....my dog has been know to drag my 230lb body around the yard.

"Justin" wrote: Now......if I go buy this trailer......how the heck am I going to get it home? Tow it with my Jeep? 😲

You should be legal towing it with your LJ. I know the short wheelbase 6 cylinder TJ's were rated at 2000 lbs. LJ's are rated higher, I believe 3500 lbs.





Edit) Too late, you already posted your tow ratings. 😎

This post is to satisfy lowrider and telling me to get my A$$ in the game. 😛





I had posted once before, but it looks like it was lost when the board went down. My parents have a heavy duty 20' trailer for sale. Look in the for sale area of the board.

"GonZo" wrote: This post is to satisfy lowrider and telling me to get my A$$ in the game. 😛


I had posted once before, but it looks like it was lost when the board went down. My parents have a heavy duty 20' trailer for sale. Look in the for sale area of the board.

its about fn time. next time i see you im gonna slap you silly.