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October 28, 2010
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"LJ3" wrote: Thanks for the heads up on WFO Rob... talked to Trevor today and maybe ill have those new axles sooner than I thouhgt....Now where to find a 78-79 D60???? know anyone selling?????

Craigs list? Pick n Pull? Pirate Board?

October 28, 2010
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As a side note...Not to anyone in particular...just some thoughts I had about build-ups...

Building big rigs is cool, but I still believe that your rig should grow with your skill level. Find out exactly what you need to do the trails you drive on. Just building a big rig for the Rubicon just seems like such a waste. It just makes a fairly easy trail just that much easier. I see and know guys that build these huge buggy type Jeeps just to cruise the Rubicon. It's a much easier task to drive your buggy through the Little Sluice, but very different when you are driving a full body rig on 35s or 37s. Now if you are heading to the Hammers, that may be a different story. But still, see how your rig handles the trails and build it accordingly. Not to mention your skills as a driver will increase as you get used to the different levels of the build-up.

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October 29, 2010
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"JohnDF" wrote: As a side note...Not to anyone in particular...just some thoughts I had about build-ups...

I agree but whatever makes you happy. It's your rig and your money. fwiw each of my major builds followed a JV run. lol

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October 29, 2010
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All the crap I broke at JV had nothing to do with my build lol I built mine so I wouldn't break anything on Deer Valley mr-green mr-green mr-green mr-green

"rainfly" wrote: [quote="JohnDF"]As a side note...Not to anyone in particular...just some thoughts I had about build-ups...

I agree but whatever makes you happy. It's your rig and your money. fwiw each of my major builds followed a JV run. lol

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"RobD" wrote: All the crap I broke at JV had nothing to do with my build lol I built mine so I wouldn't break anything on Deer Valley mr-green mr-green mr-green mr-green

I have had little breakage over the years. My builds were motivated by trail denial. mr-green And for the record my first trip to JV I made it 100' up lower Big Johnson. That was my entire weekend right there. I cut a tire, fried a clutch and vapor locked the motor. Best trip ever. lol

October 29, 2010
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Pictures 4 and 5 show less rear sheetmetal than 6 and 7. Did you add sheetmetal to the rear panels at some point, or are the photos reversed?

October 29, 2010
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John made it 25 feet into Upper Big Johnson and got denied. He is still a little Johnson Guy mr-green

"rainfly" wrote: [quote="RobD"]All the crap I broke at JV had nothing to do with my build lol I built mine so I wouldn't break anything on Deer Valley mr-green mr-green mr-green mr-green

I have had little breakage over the years. My builds were motivated by trail denial. mr-green And for the record I made it 100' up lower Big Johnson. That was my entire weekend right there. I cut a tire, fried a clutch and vapor locked the motor. Best trip ever. lol

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"BKGM Jeepers" wrote: Pictures 4 and 5 show less rear sheetmetal than 6 and 7. Did you add sheetmetal to the rear panels at some point, or are the photos reversed?

Photo #4 is a so called "comp cut" XJ springs on the rear with a 6" offset center pin.

Photo #5 is with Dodge Dakota springs. They have a 10" offset pin. In 5 the entire rear tub has been removed and replaced it with tube and sheet matal. I just didn't finish the skins on the sides. Pic number 6 shows it.

October 29, 2010
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"RobD" wrote: John made it 25 feet into Upper Big Johnson and got denied. He is still a little Johnson Guy mr-green

Ya ya ya...Talks a lot of smack for a guy that spends more time fixing his rig at JV than he does driving the trails mr-green

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November 3, 2010
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Just an update:
Rear captured coil Corp 14 bolt shaved, going to hold off on the stretch for now.
Front Dana 60 (still looking for the axle housing) holding off on the coilovers for now until the funding is available.
Will take pictures of the build when is starts…..hopefully soon. weld

December 13, 2010
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"RobD" wrote: I run large 1 ton front calipers and a vanco hydro boost which is the only thing I have found that will stop me on and off-road. I have tried several different brake options and have always gone back to the Vanco.

Rob did you install the Vanco yourself? how difficult was it?

December 14, 2010
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I did install it myself. It isn't hard if you know what you are doing when it comes to bench bleeding the master, brake line bending, caliper bleeding, and bleeding the steering. As long as you are comfortable doing that it isn't that bad.

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"RobD" wrote: I did install it myself. It isn't hard if you know what you are doing when it comes to bench bleeding the master, brake line bending, caliper bleeding, and bleeding the steering. As long as you are comfortable doing that it isn't that bad.

Yep, havent done any of that before. looks like im in a little over my head. I spoke with the tech from AGR yesterday about adding the rock ram and hydro boost. doesnt exactly sound easy. is there anyone out there that would be interested in helping me install these two things in about a month. ill throw in free food/beverages? :hack: weld

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PSC vs. AGR. Anyone?

December 14, 2010
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"BKGM Jeepers" wrote: PSC vs. AGR. Anyone?

vs. stock steering box anyone?

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December 14, 2010
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"BKGM Jeepers" wrote: PSC vs. AGR. Anyone?

actually i would be quite interested on any opinions....i looked at both but the guy from Vanco likes the way the AGR worked with the Hydroboost.
Actually if anyone has any other ideas on a rock ram and brake setup for 1ton axles im all ears? :dunno:
P.S. we need to make an avatiar of a broke guy, cause that what im going to be for a while.... 😥

December 14, 2010
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"LJ3" wrote:
a broke guy, ... that what im going to be for a while.... 😥

What else...you own a Jeep beer

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December 14, 2010
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I would help you on most anything else, but when it comes to brakes, I only work on mine. If I screw something up, hopefully I am the only one that will pay the price and get hurt or killed 😯 Brakes are a major safety item and most people don't want to take on the liability of doing someone elses brakes. Fred might help you, he also knows the Vanco system.

"LJ3" wrote: [quote="RobD"]I did install it myself. It isn't hard if you know what you are doing when it comes to bench bleeding the master, brake line bending, caliper bleeding, and bleeding the steering. As long as you are comfortable doing that it isn't that bad.

Yep, havent done any of that before. looks like im in a little over my head. I spoke with the tech from AGR yesterday about adding the rock ram and hydro boost. doesnt exactly sound easy. is there anyone out there that would be interested in helping me install these two things in about a month. ill throw in free food/beverages? :hack: weld

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John would help you, I hear he is a master mechanic and knows his way around a wrench like no one else party

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December 14, 2010
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your probably right. i should just take it to a pro.

December 15, 2010
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"RobD" wrote: I would help you on most anything else, but when it comes to brakes, I only work on mine. If I screw something up, hopefully I am the only one that will pay the price and get hurt or killed 😯 Brakes are a major safety item and most people don't want to take on the liability of doing someone elses brakes. Fred might help you, he also knows the Vanco system.

You've worked on my brakes...Does that mean you could give a crap if I crash and die? 👿

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December 22, 2010
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Just a quick update
New tires arrived yesterday MTR 40x13.5x17......actual measurement 40" x 14.5"
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December 22, 2010
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New front HP60

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December 22, 2010
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New 14bolt rear

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December 22, 2010
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Nice! Those front swaybar links may be a little short though. lol

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