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regearing Dana 44 question
April 15, 2012
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OK, I've finally saved enough pennies to indulge in some upgrades for my 04 Rubi. A 4.5" Rubicon long arm along with changes. However the biggest issue I am having before I pull the trigger concerns tire size and gearing of the Dana axles. I am between 33" and 35" tires, but need some advice on ratios.

Should I go 33" with 4.56 or 4.88? Or 35" with 4.88 or 5.13? Will I need a body lift with the 35"??

The jeep is now my official weekend warrior vehicle. So the solution needs to satisfy two items. 1) be able to drive the jeep highway to said spot for some off road fun (typically the 50 and 80 corridor areas) and 2) be able to perform off road (doing a little crawling at Cisco grove, to general off road at El Dorado National Forrest).

Any suggestions or experiences will be welcome!!

Thanks

David

April 15, 2012
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You will like the lift you are getting, the 4:88s, and the 35s...If it's a manual...may be different if it's an automatic and I'll let somebody else chime in on that issue.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

April 15, 2012
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I have been leaning towards the 35's. Do you think I might need a body lift (maybe a 2") to help with wheel clearance? and yes, it is a manual transmission.

April 15, 2012
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You should be fine with the 4.5" lift and 35" tires. If you run a winch, then add a .75" spacer to the front.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

April 16, 2012
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It all depends on what kind of wheeling you like to do. If you like crawling I'd go 5.13s but I have an auto on 37s and 5.13s. It's pretty good. But if I was given the option I would go 5.38s in my rig.

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April 16, 2012
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Since you have a manual, I would go 5-13s, that way you will never have to change gears again even if you go to a larger tire. I runn 4,88s on 40 inch tires with an auto tranny and it is perfect for my combo.

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April 16, 2012
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"RobD" wrote: Since you have a manual, I would go 5-13s, that way you will never have to change gears again even if you go to a larger tire. I runn 4,88s on 40 inch tires with an auto tranny and it is perfect for my combo.

5.13s are going to be pretty low for 35" tires. And if he jumped up to 37+ inch tires, he'll have to replace his axles anyways mr-green

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April 16, 2012
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I'm running a 4.0L with a manual tranny, 44s front and rear, and 37" tires with 4.88s.

If you're going with 35" tires, I'd recommend going to 4.88s so you don't have to re-gear if going to 37s later. You'd be bomb-proof in upgrading to dana 60s if you go to 37" tires, but you can get away with 37s on your 44s if you lay off the skinny pedal. I drive like my grandma.

April 18, 2012
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Ill start by saying i had 37" tires with 4.88 gears and i wish i would of gone to the 5.13's. I run a 4.0 with an auto trannie. my current setup is the 5.38's with 40" tires and it seems to work out pretty well for me even in the steep sand i have enough torque to concor the trails i want to...

April 18, 2012
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Personally, I'd save the money and run the 4.10s for now. Put the money into chromoly shafts, CTM u-joints, and a Warn hub conversion. 8)

I used to wheel a lot. . .

April 18, 2012
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I don't have a jeep but for my truck. Lower is better. I have 5.13s and I wish I had 5.38s

April 20, 2012
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I run a manual with 4.88, 35s with a 5.5 inch lift. The 35s will fit with 4.5 inch lift and If you are driving on the freeway I would caution running 5.13s. at 65 mph I am revving between 2500 and 2800 rpm. That's with the 6 speed in overdrive. If you are planning on going bigger in the future I wouldn't put too much into the d30/35. Save your $$$ and get bigger axles. I wish I had followed this advice. Good Luck....

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"lj4x4" wrote: I run a manual with 4.88, 35s with a 5.5 inch lift. The 35s will fit with 4.5 inch lift and If you are driving on the freeway I would caution running 5.13s. at 65 mph I am revving between 2500 and 2800 rpm. That's with the 6 speed in overdrive. If you are planning on going bigger in the future I wouldn't put too much into the d30/35. Save your $$$ and get bigger axles. I wish I had followed this advice. Good Luck....

He has front and rear 44s...But ya, I still agree with all of this mr-green

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April 20, 2012
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"JohnDF" wrote: [quote="lj4x4"]I run a manual with 4.88, 35s with a 5.5 inch lift. The 35s will fit with 4.5 inch lift and If you are driving on the freeway I would caution running 5.13s. at 65 mph I am revving between 2500 and 2800 rpm. That's with the 6 speed in overdrive. If you are planning on going bigger in the future I wouldn't put too much into the d30/35. Save your $$$ and get bigger axles. I wish I had followed this advice. Good Luck....

He has front and rear 44s...But ya, I still agree with all of this mr-green

No Sir that is a Dana 30. The problem is it thinks it's a 60. and yes I have axle envy...... mr-green

April 21, 2012
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"lj4x4" wrote:

No Sir that is a Dana 30.

Okay, It's a 30 on the outside and a 44 on the inside...We'll call it a 37 mr-green

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