7:07 am
Found these for cheaper from a private seller. These seem worth using for long arms or something else?
Ad just caught my eye as for something down the road in hopes of capitalizing.
http://www.qscomponents.com/34EconW34to ... 0andj.html
Thanks for any thoughts
7:42 am
Club Member
September 3, 2008
Offline Check out http://www.ruffstuffspecialtie.....m/catalog/
Local guy in Loomis that gives good deals to the local guys. Plus you can walk in and check everything out in your hands. 
Um...what?
8:57 am
January 22, 2011
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3:36 pm
and a partridge in a pear tree!!! lol
Yeah, I recall ruffstuff, but the price is hard to ignore for the set I found (8). Just a pair from ruffstuff is $125. There are some slight differences b/t the referenced set and ruffstuff, but I'm not versed in all this yet. You pro guys gotta speak up since not all of us are built up. 😀
Is there something about that set that is just a pure no-no technically? Any of you build your own control arms or links?
6:50 pm
This stuff is for light weight " budget " circle track racers, not off-road.
6:57 pm
January 27, 2011
Offline Looks like Joe is in the "go big or go home" crowd.
But seriously there are some states, for whatever reason, don't allow heim joints in the suspension. Not sure why unless it is a DOT approved thing. Is this mod OK in California for street driven vehicles? Only because I've thought of it myself.
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8:25 pm
January 12, 2007
Offline "Wh1t3Nukle" wrote:
Just a pair from ruffstuff is $125.
I'm sure you could get them cheaper if you walked in with cash. 
8:55 pm
Here is a pic of some of the stuff I'm using today. 1 1/4 shank stuff. Currie housing, metal cloak bushing and weld ring, CM cryo Hiem, Ballistic Fab joint. Also the arms I had made up out of 1.8 dia. drill stem. Wall is .600 and at the threaded ends it is .335 thick. Had the stuff rockwelled a while back but can't find the paperwork. It was hard but did not seem too hard at the time and the machinist was willing to give it a try on his cnc. It took a long time. How do you think this steel will work out?
9:43 pm
January 27, 2011
Offline "jsmorrow" wrote: How do you think this steel will work out?
I'll let you know next century.
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10:12 pm
January 22, 2011
Offline "TomD" wrote: Looks like Joe is in the "go big or go home" crowd.
But seriously there are some states, for whatever reason, don't allow heim joints in the suspension. Not sure why unless it is a DOT approved thing. Is this mod OK in California for street driven vehicles? Only because I've thought of it myself.
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I have been told that they are not DOT approved but that has not stopped most people.
10:21 pm
What application you using those for Joe?
What's the alternative to heims then for links, control arms, long arm kinda stuff?
11:58 pm
Lower control arms on white jeep. There is a LOT of different joints on the market. I am trying something that will have some "give" to them and have some rotation to them. "Give" because i tore some stuff up this season and have not replaced ALL of the stock brackets. Rotation because I don't like how most bushings add to the spring rate and are not as supple. The "cloak" bushing has a football shaped insert encased in torsion rubber that flexes easily and rotates within the housing.It is of the zero pre-load type. The other big joint gives you a choice of races. Sintered bronze, teflon, nylon and poly. I'm trying the poly. Adjustable pre-load. I would resist the urge to use anything smaller joint wise on lower control arms. Need something that will take a beating. Even if you don't wheel hard you will end up hitting something or sliding off something so it needs to more than able to handle it! 2" dia. 1/4 wall DOM is somewhat std. for Jeep lower control arms. I'm just tired of bending the 1.25" studs that RE arms have on them so I'm trying something else 'cause I drive bad. Know anything about the so called shock proof drill stem I used for arms?
6:45 pm
(info on DuroFlex joints)
http://www.metalcloak.com/JK-Wrangler-D ... p/7105.htm
Here is a little more info on the MetalCloak DUROFLEX joint that Joe is talking about, the info is on the control arm page of the web site however if you scroll down there is the best description I can figure out how to make there. These bushings give all and more vibration dampening of a clevite but with rotational qualities of a bearing and still has more misalignment than a solid joint. Joe is one of the first to fab up his own set up with our joints and I am looking forward to seeing his progress!
8:22 pm
I'm very interested in this as I'm planning out long arm kit. However, this will be for a 2nd gen Ram 1500. Can metalcloak come up with some kit or at least recommended rod ends? This is not a dedicated trail rig.
Thanks for chiming in!
6:41 am
January 27, 2011
Offline I'm keeping an eye on this thread as well. Gonna finish the rear of the XJ first as that presented the opportunity first, but I'd like to build a long arm as well before too long.
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3:48 am
January 22, 2011
Offline I have been looking for some joints as well. It is past time I replaced mine. I was planning on going with Ballistic fab joints but I have read some bad reviews on them. I am back to ruff stuff now. Some one needs to give us big trucks some joints.
4:42 am
I too am looking at joints and have heard bad things about Ballistic Joints. I have been heavily considering the Ruffstuff heims but I've heard over time they start banging/ clanking. They are also half the price of Johny Joints, but I hate my suspension making noise. So I am 90% leaning towards the JJ's. But i might explore the joints that Joe is talking about.
5:11 am
"MetalMaestro" wrote: (info on DuroFlex joints)
http://www.metalcloak.com/JK-Wrangler-D ... p/7105.htm
Here is a little more info on the MetalCloak DUROFLEX joint that Joe is talking about, the info is on the control arm page of the web site however if you scroll down there is the best description I can figure out how to make there. These bushings give all and more vibration dampening of a clevite but with rotational qualities of a bearing and still has more misalignment than a solid joint. Joe is one of the first to fab up his own set up with our joints and I am looking forward to seeing his progress!
Love the joints! Do you sell them individually? if so quanto dinero? I would love to try them out on the back of my LJ.
6:23 am
These are not so hot?
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/For ... c_141.html
9:11 pm
January 22, 2011
Offline http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/For ... p-388.html
I am leaning this way now. I think these are what Joe was using to? Johny Joints by currie enterprises.
http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestor ... px?id=2629
10:19 pm
Club Member
September 3, 2008
Offline Buy from Northridge4x4.com. They are cheaper. I believe orders over $100 ship for free and every once in a while thay do a %5 off sale. Great guys to deal with too!!!
http://northridge4x4.com/produ.....hp?cat=186
Um...what?
11:19 pm
"Path 88" wrote: I have been looking for some joints as well. It is past time I replaced mine. I was planning on going with Ballistic fab joints but I have read some bad reviews on them. I am back to ruff stuff now. Some one needs to give us big trucks some joints.
Another one of the guy's i know is running them on his LJ that is in your weight class. Using poly inserts with no problems. Not afraid to put the hemi on the revlimiter if needed. There are a fair amount of larger joins over 3" on the market. I'll call a buddy who's into the the truck thing and get some info for you. just called- he's at an event so it will be next week. Any idea of what you are looking for in a joint?
11:31 pm
"Path 88" wrote: http://www.polyperformance.com.....p-388.html
I am leaning this way now. I think these are what Joe was using to? Johny Joints by currie enterprises.
http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestor ... px?id=2629
Oops, just saw this post. I'm using the 1.25 shank housing only, metalcloak joint inside. So far it's doing fine and has the feel I was looking for. Might finnish some of the fab work next week to put 4 more up front.
12:14 am
"lj4x4" wrote: [quote="MetalMaestro"](info on DuroFlex joints)
http://www.metalcloak.com/JK-Wrangler-D ... p/7105.htm
Here is a little more info on the MetalCloak DUROFLEX joint that Joe is talking about, the info is on the control arm page of the web site however if you scroll down there is the best description I can figure out how to make there. These bushings give all and more vibration dampening of a clevite but with rotational qualities of a bearing and still has more misalignment than a solid joint. Joe is one of the first to fab up his own set up with our joints and I am looking forward to seeing his progress!
Love the joints! Do you sell them individually? if so quanto dinero? I would love to try them out on the back of my LJ.
So far I like them. They test somewhat different than other mfg's do. Besides having a pretty good test driver they do a thing called a corner travel index( i think thats what they called it ) where they lift opposite corners of the vehicle both ways.heres a couple of pics to give you an idea. No pics, can't remove enough pixles from the photo to load on our site. Re-sized on camera.
10:01 pm
January 22, 2011
Offline TeraFlex Monster Hd Joints are the recommended joints from Jason over at J C Performance
http://4wheelonline.com/jeep/TeraFlex_J ... 419.304462
I went and bought the Johnnyy Joints from Currie Enterprises
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