5:17 am
January 22, 2011
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Guess what I got.
5:19 am
January 22, 2011
Offline Some more
5:21 am
January 22, 2011
Offline Almost have every thing
5:38 am
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September 3, 2008
Offline Uh oh. I wonder what your making.
Um...what?
2:13 pm
Is that Dodge stuff for the Pathfinder? 
I thought you were tossing around the idea of building it instead.
3:10 pm
January 22, 2011
Offline The wife said no!¡!¡!
3:24 pm
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July 10, 2003
Offline "Path 88" wrote: The wife said no!¡!¡!
and promptly hid the family jewels
If you find your's, you can help me find mine...
I used to wheel a lot. . .
5:32 pm
That looks to be a 4500, 5 speed tranny that would fit into a dodge truck. I think I'm pretty good at this guessing stuff.
2:22 pm
January 22, 2011
Offline Yes it is a nv4500 I will finally get some crawl gears. I also have the new hp 60 built for the front end. Time to get the coilovers on. No turning back now
7:21 pm
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July 10, 2003
Offline 8) 8) 8)
I used to wheel a lot. . .
11:25 pm
January 22, 2011
Offline I am thinking Dana 80 track rear. What do you think?
11:39 pm
May 4, 2004
Offline "Path 88" wrote: I am thinking Dana 80 track rear. What do you think?
You'd be able to get around the seasonal closures with tracks
3:49 am
January 22, 2011
Offline I got the passenger frame cleaned up and pulled the little nv3500 and np231. I will keep you all posted as I go.
2:12 pm
January 22, 2011
Offline Yep that is what I am starting with. I may go to a 3 link if I don't like it. But I do drive this truck a lot or I plan to. 😎
2:26 pm
The advantage of the 3 link would be pinion control and 1 more link to the frame for the axle. Mark
2:43 pm
January 22, 2011
Offline Yes but I do not run sway bars and a 3link can be much more squirrely. I had a similar 4link that I just cut off that worked very well. And why would I lose pinion control with a radius arm set up? I can adjust the pinion angle and caster angle just the same. And the binding that every one says is bad will keep road manners nicer. I am not worried about flex performance, the weight of my rid will keep it flexing.
3:40 pm
Radius arm, you will set the static pinion angle at ride height and from that point on the angle of the pinion will scribe the same arc as the length of the arms. Never compensating for droop or up travel. Now some say "that's what ujoints are for" I believe the less operating angle of the ujoint is directly tied to it's strength and longevity. A sway bar is not a bad thing, it allows a softer spring rate without the "squirrely" effect you mentioned. Edit, I forgot to add the caster angle will stay closer to the static caster on a multi link throughout the suspension cycle also. Pretty sure we met, Rubicon June last year camped at Ellis, or was that another Dodge.Mark
2:52 am
January 22, 2011
Offline Most-likely it was me. I spent a lot of time up there last year. I only know a few full side dodges that run the trail and most of them are a little more beat then mine. As far as the drive line goes my radius arms are 4 feet long right now, so if I do not cut them down the drive line will be right about the same length. It should make the angle real nice. It's the same thing all the jeeps run and as my brother said to me when I was deciding on it, if it works well for me it should work well for you.
3:05 am
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September 3, 2008
Offline You have a smart brother 🙂
Um...what?
3:22 am
January 22, 2011
Offline I forgot to mention the atlas is on order too! Should be here in a few weeks. I got the nv4500 all bolted up ready to go. It fits a lot tighter on the height. I would have had to re fab the mount if I didn't have the body lift I think.
3:33 am
Club Member
September 3, 2008
Offline "skorch" wrote: Radius arm, you will set the static pinion angle at ride height and from that point on the angle of the pinion will scribe the same arc as the length of the arms. Never compensating for droop or up travel. Now some say "that's what ujoints are for" I believe the less operating angle of the ujoint is directly tied to it's strength and longevity. A sway bar is not a bad thing, it allows a softer spring rate without the "squirrely" effect you mentioned. Edit, I forgot to add the caster angle will stay closer to the static caster on a multi link throughout the suspension cycle also. Pretty sure we met, Rubicon June last year camped at Ellis, or was that another Dodge.Mark
Pretty much every jeep running a 4 link front has a static pinion angle. Are you saying they are all bad designs?
Um...what?
3:40 am
How does that work? Radius arm and 4 link are different. Radius arm= 2conections to the frame, 4 link= 4 connections to the frame. Plus panhard bar. Mark
4:26 am
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September 3, 2008
Offline Well, what would you call the front suspension of the typical TJ long arm? Is it considered a radius arm suspension? 2 frame mounts with a panhard.
Well, whatever the name of the suspension, every person I have talked to about a 3 link says they didn't like it. What kind of front suspension are you running Mark? I noticed you have coils up front. Did you design your suspension?
Um...what?
4:39 am
"finder_87" wrote: Well, what would you call the front suspension of the typical TJ long arm? Is it considered a radius arm suspension? 2 frame mounts with a panhard.
Yes it would be a Radius arm. Stock would be 4link with panhard bar. Radius arm are effective, simple and easy to package. The down fall would be like mentioned before pinion angle follows arc of arms (Jeff has the pivot point of the arm at the front output) which will help the front ujoint and a tendency to unload on steep climbs. My front is the same way although it's a 3 link and uses less than an inch of slip yoke on the driveline. Mark
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