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New Tires for the Samurai
September 13, 2020
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Gilbert & Betty
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Specialsoundman said

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Next will work on the back clearance. Rear-Tire-Clearance.jpgImage Enlarger

  

NICE!  What about simply adding a bumpstop in the rear right before body contact?

  

I believe that when I trim the rock slider and the body there on the rear corners, that I will have the clearance so that a bumpstop won't be needed. But we'll see after the rear body trimming, will do another tire test at PC to see. Then if I do i can add it. If I don't then it's just a little more flex available. Also when I build the beefed axle I will put on saddles that move the axle back about 3/4"-1" that should center the tires right in the center of the fender hump. 

What I do need to do is get stiffer shocks on the compression stroke to slow down the body roll on off camber drop offs.

  

order them now and you might have them by Christmas laughing 

September 19, 2020
6:17 pm
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Well the body/fender mods worked out great. The clearances with it really flexed out I am really pleased with. There is about 1" of clearance on the front with it flexed up. The rear has about 2 1/2" of clearance. IMG_0972.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0961.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0960.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0967.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0971.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0969.jpgImage EnlargerIMG_0962.jpgImage Enlarger

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September 19, 2020
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Nice work David. Good work on all your mods. 

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September 20, 2020
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Did you find your tire air down sweet spot yet?  How do the Patagonia's feel and work?  

September 20, 2020
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Gilbert & Betty said
Did you find your tire air down sweet spot yet?  How do the Patagonia's feel and work?  

  

Haven’t done the air down testing yet. But even aired up yesterday they are good. I Did run at 10psi last trip and it work great. I am loving the ride on the road. It rolls better, and is so Much quieter. The ride is great  

Planing on doing the air down test next trip to PC when Sean goes to test his tires on The 4Runner. 

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September 20, 2020
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I can go back to PC next Saturday on the 26th to test my tire clearance if you want to go then?

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September 20, 2020
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JigglyJr said
I can go back to PC next Saturday on the 26th to test my tire clearance if you want to go then?

  

You Probity should run the rear tire up on some ramps to check for clearances first.

Be a shame crying to get it out there and tear the tires up or rip body parts off.

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September 20, 2020
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I dont have any ramps big enough. After you left I did some flex tests like you. I found out the trac bars will make my axles swing back and forth rather than up and down. When I am at max up travel with my rear my front still has another 4-5” inches to go. Very big difference. Im not sure what to do with my rear. I do not think trimming my rear body will do much because my rear is so limited from the trac bars. picture below of what I am trying to explain lol , I am really

considering doing leaf springs in the rear, but have no idea what to do.0EA64D78-C1BD-472D-AA47-3A9511C277CE.jpegImage Enlarger950C7E9E-F07F-4E1C-B39B-3A665AFAB87F.jpegImage Enlarger

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September 21, 2020
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Sean, With your new Tires just have to flex it out. In that pic look like the axle moves more to the center of the fender hump and away from the body. But are you totally flexed out?  Because your front Passenger is up on some rocks. Need to go to where the front is fully compressed or..... Could back up a rock "slowly" and compress the rear. IMG_0374.jpgImage Enlarger Old pic, but like this, to see what it will look like.

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September 21, 2020
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Yeah I was not fully flexed in that one with my older tires. I may get away with bigger spacers on the rear before I go out there to test it, I ordered them today so they should be here this week.

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September 21, 2020
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JigglyJr said
I dont have any ramps big enough. After you left I did some flex tests like you. I found out the trac bars will make my axles swing back and forth rather than up and down. When I am at max up travel with my rear my front still has another 4-5” inches to go. Very big difference. Im not sure what to do with my rear. I do not think trimming my rear body will do much because my rear is so limited from the trac bars. picture below of what I am trying to explain lol , I am really

considering doing leaf springs in the rear, but have no idea what to do.0EA64D78-C1BD-472D-AA47-3A9511C277CE.jpegImage Enlarger950C7E9E-F07F-4E1C-B39B-3A665AFAB87F.jpegImage Enlarger

  

Adjustable track bar is your best option.  All TJs and JKs you see on the trail deal with the axle shifting from the track bars.  An adjustable one lets you center it.  While leaf springs are better about axle centering and flex-steer, there isn't a trail in the area that is more difficult for track bar equipped rigs.  Especially due to the more reliable flex from proper 4/5 link suspension geometry (and much better ride).  The ultimate fix is to do a double triangulated rear suspension but street manners go to hell.

September 22, 2020
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I will look into that For sure. I did not even consider that... with adjustable trac bars I  would want to relocate my shock mounts too. Im in no rush for that project, have to buy my wife a truck for our anniversary first before I upgrade my rear suspension LOL. 

thanks for the input!

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