"BKGM Jeepers" wrote: Sorry Steve for the confusion. I had assumed the discussion was on the light duty trucks, rather than diesels.

Sorry....I thought maybe John was on the fence between a 1/2 ton and a 3/4 when he mentioned he was test driving the Cummins and exploring the option of rollin' coal.

John if you are looking at a 1/2 ton truck with a gas engine, you might want to consider going with a 3/4 ton with a gas engine. The difference in price is minimal and it gives you the option of later down the road of towing a heavy trailer or even a 5th wheel.

"JohnDF" wrote: I don't NEED a diesel, I WANT a diesel...Who wouldn't. But it aint gonna happen 😥
The reality is that there only seems to be two choices for me; A Toyota and a Dodge.

I hear you. I just picked up a couple year old, fully loaded 1 ton dually Duramax a month ago. Smooth, quiet and fast. Much nicer than my 05 chevy dually. I am not familiar with the Toyota product as they didn't make anything that will tow a 5th wheel toy hauler, but I did look at the new Dodges. The interior is head and shoulders above the earlier years like my 04. I was real close to buying one and wanted to get the Longhorn package, but just didn't feel like paying in the low $50's for one, especially with the changes coming on the 2013's , so I decided to go used on a GM or Dodge.

You might even look at the chevy/gmc with the 6.0. Thats supposed to be a great engine from what I hear. The only problem with GM and Ford for that matter is that they are very proud of their trucks and their prices reflect that. Dodge always seems to be lower priced and is willing to usually deal more.

Buy a 2 wheel drive 3/4 ton. A lot less money, better gas milage, etc. unless you can really justify the 4x4, it is a waste of money and more for insurance. How many times did you really use 4x4 in your Tundra. Not much!! I use 4x4 all the time in my Tundra when I go hunting, so I can justify it. If I just needed a tow rig and the bed for hauling stuff occasionally, I would buy a 2x2 now. I'm to old to think a 4x4 is cool. I have 4 vehicles that are 4x4 and my insurance bill sucks!!

X2, my Tundra has an annoying dash rattle 👿

"Bender" wrote: [quote="BKGM Jeepers"]
This is all the toyotas I have owned and none have ever had problems.

I'm jealous. Every Toyota I've ever owned and ever one my family has owned (aside from a mid 90s camry) has had some sort of weird interior rattles/squeaks that came up. I don't really count the 4Runner in that category...it earned its squeaks. 😀 The drive trains were well above average, but the interiors were cheap.

My camry has a irritating squeal/whine that comes from the fan for the heat/vent/ac. Its faint, but once you hear it you can't stop listening to it. My wife has to have to radio on all the time or it drives her crazy. It doesn't bother me as much since I am half deaf, hence the reason it hasn't gone in the be repaired or replaced. 😀

The rotors on the Camry are a joke. We bought the car new and they have been warped since 30K miles. The car is 3 years old with 75,000 miles, so it has seen very little stop and go driving. The brake pads are still in great shape, but I might have to replace them and the rotors to get rid of the shaking while braking. My brother in law rented a Camry last year and had the same warped rotor problem, so it doesn't appear to be isolated to mine.