1:09 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
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What rating would YOU assign these trails:
Rating...a "1" is easy and a "10" is the most difficult
Fordyce
Rubicon
Barrett Lake
Dusy Ershim
Hell Hole
Deer Valley
Slick Rock
Strawberry
Keep in mind that the Hammers would be a "10"so rate accordingly
I used to wheel a lot. . .
1:24 pm
January 12, 2007
Offline "JohnDF" wrote: What rating would YOU assign these trails:
Rating...a "1" is easy and a "10" is the most difficult
Fordyce
Rubicon
Barrett Lake
Dusy Ershim
Hell Hole
Deer Valley
Slick Rock
StrawberryKeep in mind that the Hammers would be a "10"so rate accordingly
I have only run a few of those trails so I would say:
Fordyce=8
Rubicon=6 (due to bypasses)
Strawberry =2
1:28 pm
February 5, 2003
Offline I didn't read where John said HAMMERS, were a 10, so I've revised my ratings downward.
Rubicon - pre jeepers jamboree, w/o bypasses 8
Fordyce - pre sierra trek w/o bypasses 8
Fordyce- post sierra trek w/o bypasses 7
Rubicon - post jeepsers jamboree and bypassing LS and true sluice 7
Barrett Lake 6
Deer Valley 4
Slick Rock northbound 3
Slick Rock southbound 4
Strawberry 11
Haven't run
Dusy Ershim
Hell Hole
Closed Mondays.
1:34 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline "Dan-H" wrote:
Strawberry 11
That was funny 
but proves that even an easy trail can reach out and bite you some times.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
1:37 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline In general...considering you don't take bypasses (except LittleSluice)
Fordyce = 8
Rubicon = 7
Barrett Lake = 6
Dusy Ershim = 5
Hell Hole = 5
Deer Valley = 4
Slick Rock = ?
Strawberry = 3
I used to wheel a lot. . .
1:54 pm
Assuming no bypasses (except LS) and based on what I've run at the Hammers:
Fordyce = 8.5
Rubicon = 7
Barrett Lake = 7
Dusy Ershim = 6
Slick Rock = 5
Hell Hole = 5
Deer Valley = 4
Strawberry = 3
Long Canyon = 2
Corral Hollow = 2
You guys think Barrett is easier than the Rubicon? Maybe it's easier because it's short?
No bypass on WH3 makes Fordyce right up there.
Dusy is weird because there are a couple of interesting spots split up my miles and miles and miles of bumpy road.
2:10 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline I rated Barrett lower than the Rubicon because:
There are only 3 difficult obstacles
A majority of the trail could be run in 2WD (given lower gears)
And it's short
I used to wheel a lot. . .
2:14 pm
How come you didn't ask for a rating of Praire City or the Galleria? Are you trying to exclude Brad and Alex?
2:23 pm
"JohnDF" wrote: I rated Barrett lower than the Rubicon because:
...And it's short
Jack is short. Sledge is short. Plenty of short trails out there. No, I'm not sensitive about my height. Why are you asking? Seriously, short is cool alright.
2:26 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline I think Barrett is like a really short Dusy trail. A few good obstacles with a whole lot of dirt road and beautiful scenery thrown in.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
2:31 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline Also, remember, so far these are the opinions of experienced wheelers. A novice will look at some of these trails and think they are really hard...and they are if you have little experience. I used to think that Strawberry was hard and Barrett was insane.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
2:36 pm
February 5, 2003
Offline you need to define what a 10 is.
I defined a 10 as the hardest trail on the list, not the hardest trail on the planet.
Fordyce is IMO the hardest on the list except for LS on the rubicon.
Closed Mondays.
2:46 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline I did define it...a "10" is the Hammers...for those that haven't been there...picture a trail that has all the hard obtacles from Rubicon, Fordyce, and Barrett...all packed into 1/4 mile...with no by-passes. It's not that the obstacles are so much harder, it's that they are all packed together.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
3:11 pm
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline I am not sure. I've ran the entire Rubicon (including walker and cadilac hills) open. How can that make that trail a 7 or 8 (excluding LS of course)? Now, if you ran the trail backwards and took old sluece uphill, I think that would add to the difficulty. -6
I ran all of barett except the second rock garden open (the "in" direction) as well. I don't think anyone (including the guy on 40" MT/R's) made that second rock garden without lockers. We saw a guy on 39" IROCs require a strap, and a guy on 40" TSL's take 20 minutes on one obstical. That's not a 6. Didn't John make it all the way through LS on 37's in less than 20 minutes? -7
I could not run fordyce (including using the by-passes) open successfully because I couldn't make the WH3 by-pass, and I had to lock both diffs to get throught the WH3 squeeze section. -8
Thompson hill on Dusy is also very difficult if run open, but that's probably the only really challenging section on Dusy. -5
Deer Valley has some tough sections, but there are easy lines that can be taken. -4.
Strawberry is fun, but not hard. -2
3:54 pm
Using JV as a 10 is kind of hard. The trails at JV have such a large range of difficulty it’s hard for me to make them all a 10. Locally I would call Fordyce the 10 and base it off of that. Another factor that I look at is the risk of breakage and the remoteness. If you break on Barrett it takes less than 3 hours to tow a completely dead rig out from the lake. Potentially much longer on FD or the Con.
FD=10
Con=9 (bypassing LS)
Barrett=5ish
4:07 pm
web wheeling from home = 8
web wheeling from work = 5
web wheeling from remote locations such as starbucks = 8
real wheeling = 10
theres my 2cents. glad i could contribute.
4:31 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline Web wheeling with dial up and AOL = 10+
I used to wheel a lot. . .
5:02 pm
July 15, 2005
Offline Fordyce 7
Rubicon trail 5 (LS is a 9)
Barrett Lake 3
Dusy Ershim 2
Hell Hole 2
Deer Valley 1
Slick Rock 1
Strawberry 1
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5:07 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline "RobD" wrote: (LS is a 9)
I would say the opening obstacle of LS is a "10" while the rest of it is an "8"
I used to wheel a lot. . .
5:11 pm
May 4, 2004
Offline Fordyce - 8
Rubicon -7
Barrett Lake - 6
Dusy Ershim - 5
Hell Hole - 4, but it's been a while since I've been on it
Deer Valley - 3
Slick Rock - ?, never been on it
Strawberry - 3
2:21 am
Fordyce = 7.6 (It's only a 5 if Rob spots me through)
Rubicon = 7.4 (You haven't run the trail without True Sluice, the funnest part)
I also think direction affects the ratings a little on the above trails.
Strawberry in Winter = 10
12:31 am
"1tom2go" wrote: Rubicon = 7.4 (You haven't run the trail without True Sluice, the funnest part)
Could someone tell me where exactly is old sluice? I heard that the slabs before buck island lake are the bypass, but i didnt see a turn off at the top of them to get to the sluice. Im going up there in Oct. and want to run that part, if the trail isnt snowed out yet.
1:16 am
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline The Old Sluice parallels the slabs before Buck Island. Look for a turn to the right after the water crossing.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
3:20 am
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline "JohnDF" wrote: The Old Sluice parallels the slabs before Buck Island. Look for a turn to the right after the water crossing.
OLD Sleuce has a slabs by-pass on its left before you drop down into Buck Island. You can see buck island lake from the cut over that gets you to old sleuce. It is right after you go through a water crossing.
As opposed to:
Little Sleuce is right next to Spyder Lake, with a slab by-pass on its left (and on its right).
5:57 pm
"Norcal crawler" wrote: [quote="1tom2go"]Rubicon = 7.4 (You haven't run the trail without True Sluice, the funnest part)
Could someone tell me where exactly is old sluice? I heard that the slabs before buck island lake are the bypass, but i didnt see a turn off at the top of them to get to the sluice. Im going up there in Oct. and want to run that part, if the trail isnt snowed out yet.
I know what you mean, because it doesn't look like much of a trail at the start. This is where the FUN happens! stay to the right before the slabs and look out for Fred Rock.
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