9:28 pm
March 8, 2016
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Just wanted to see what suggestions you guys had for a rear tire carrier and bumper. Ashlee wants one with a trail rack like on the Lod setups but they are limited to a 37 in tire and I will be running a MINIMUM of a 38 one day and hopefully 40s. We also want to carry Rotopax or something similar also so Dave from Northridge suggested the EVO tire carrier with rear rock corners. I really like that setup and it can accommodate up to a 42in spare. And it has several accessory mounting options but no rack!! Should we be thinking roof rack for camping gear? What's our options? Budget is $1200 and maybe squeeze in an extra $150.
P.S the EVO setup gets us new LED taillights also!! 
11:29 am
Club Member
September 3, 2008
Offline The EVO setup isn't much of a bumper and is primarily a tire carrier.
Are you positive that the LOD bumper won't hold a 40"? Jason, a former club member also goes by the name Huck is running an LOD bumper with a 40" spare plus rotopax. It's a nice stout setup.
I would really pay attention to feedback regarding bumper/tire shake for a 40" tire. That's a lot of leverage and not all bumpers are the same.
Um...what?
11:59 am
March 8, 2016
Offline Yea with the EVO setup I would just run no bumper under it and eventually add an actual bumper later. I think the reason the Lod is limited to 37" is because of the trail rack. That's what the guy at Northridge said also. I've read a lot of good reviews on the EVO setup with a 40" spare saying that it really reduces vibration and wobbling.
12:07 pm
Club Member
September 3, 2008
Offline Here is Jason's jeep with his setup. And it is a 40 toyo on the back.
I like the evo setup, but have you priced out the skins that go along with the tire carrier, the lights, powder coat and the install? It can get pricey fast.
Um...what?
12:10 pm
Club Member
September 3, 2008
Offline http://lodoffroad.com/products.....-rack.html
It does say 37", hmm I wonder how Jason made it work for him.
Um...what?
12:31 pm
Club Trailmaster
March 13, 2015
Offline For the the features on the AEV tire carrier it would be my choice if I had a JK. Rated for a 40" tire, integrated water tanks (amazing for camping), and an integrated full size shovel holder (which can be worth it's weight in gold while snow wheeling). I don't necessarily think it is the best looking tire carrier but nothing will check every box for everyone. It is also more of an overlanding bumper which means it will be easier to live with every day since it is tied to the tailgate and doesn't have a separate latch to operate.
1:06 pm
March 8, 2016
Offline Gregulator said
Here is Jason's jeep with his setup. And it is a 40 toyo on the back.
I like the evo setup, but have you priced out the skins that go along with the tire carrier, the lights, powder coat and the install? It can get pricey fast.
Yea I can get the skins, carrier and lights in my price range. I plan to do the install myself with help ( hint, hint) the only price I don't know about is powder coat. If you can find out from Jason how he did that setup I would be willing to look more into that.
1:25 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline I plan on going with the Maximus3 tire carrier when I increase tire size past 37". That way I can keep my sexy Hard Rock bumpers.
I'm not a fan of exterior racks on Jeeps. They get hung up on stuff and carry weight too high. That makes the rig more tippy.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
12:29 pm
Club Member
September 3, 2008
Offline I like this option. It holds a 40", doesn't require corner guards and can still mount rotopax if you wish.
Um...what?
9:54 pm
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline Powder coating is available in orangevale. I paid 75 bucks for orange.
9:55 pm
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline Gregulator said
The EVO setup isn't much of a bumper and is primarily a tire carrier.Are you positive that the LOD bumper won't hold a 40"? Jason, a former club member also goes by the name Huck is running an LOD bumper with a 40" spare plus rotopax. It's a nice stout setup.
I would really pay attention to feedback regarding bumper/tire shake for a 40" tire. That's a lot of leverage and not all bumpers are the same.
Mine works fine. No rattles yet.
11:23 pm
March 8, 2016
Offline Gregulator said
I like this option. It holds a 40", doesn't require corner guards and can still mount rotopax if you wish.
I like the Poison Spyder setup but I kinda like the idea of having the corner guards for a little extra protection, and I like the fact that it changes the look of your taillights, so overall I guess the aesthetics on the EVO is better to me. I wonder if we just got a generic trail rack if something could be fabbed to make it work?
9:21 am
Club Member
January 20, 2009
Offline TravisL\
I like the Poison Spyder setup but I kinda like the idea of having the corner guards for a little extra protection, and I like the fact that it changes the look of your taillights, so overall I guess the aesthetics on the EVO is better to me. I wonder if we just got a generic trail rack if something could be fabbed to make it work?
Anything can be fabbed if you got the $$$.
11:01 am
March 8, 2016
Offline k-jeep said
Anything can be fabbed if you got the $$$.
Haha yea I guess that's true! Or should we just consider a roof rack instead of just a trail rack?
10:20 am
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline JohnDF said
I plan on going with the Maximus3 tire carrier when I increase tire size past 37". That way I can keep my sexy Hard Rock bumpers.I'm not a fan of exterior racks on Jeeps. They get hung up on stuff and carry weight too high. That makes the rig more tippy.
That's why I have an "interior" rack!!!
10:26 am
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline TravisL\
Haha yea I guess that's true! Or should we just consider a roof rack instead of just a trail rack?
Never assume that because it's fabbed it's better than a store bought item! That can be a huge mistake. Almost zero fabricators are actual structural or civil engineers and and none of them have the money to perform necessary stress load modeling.
On my TJ, I had a fabricator outboard my rear shocks because that was the "best thing ever". It was the worst upgrade I did on my jeep, and I threw away more than 500 on that work.
I had one guy "custom fab" my rear TJ tire carrier/bumper/rack. But what he did was he bought all the defective gen 1 RE builder kits and reinforce them. RE tossed the stuff they knew didn't work and fixed their problems. That's what companies do that garage fab does not.
FYI. These are just my opinions and experiences. I've got more wonderful garage fab experiences I could share as well...
10:38 am
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July 10, 2003
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BKGM Jeepers said
That's why I have an "interior" rack!!!
That's a well thought out alternative.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
1:15 pm
March 8, 2016
Offline BKGM Jeepers said
Never assume that because it's fabbed it's better than a store bought item! That can be a huge mistake. Almost zero fabricators are actual structural or civil engineers and and none of them have the money to perform necessary stress load modeling.
On my TJ, I had a fabricator outboard my rear shocks because that was the "best thing ever". It was the worst upgrade I did on my jeep, and I threw away more than 500 on that work.
I had one guy "custom fab" my rear TJ tire carrier/bumper/rack. But what he did was he bought all the defective gen 1 RE builder kits and reinforce them. RE tossed the stuff they knew didn't work and fixed their problems. That's what companies do that garage fab does not.
FYI. These are just my opinions and experiences. I've got more wonderful garage fab experiences I could share as well...
That's a great point, I would like to do the interior rack but we plan to keep the hard top and it would get in the way every time we wanted to take our dogs somewhere since they ride in the cargo area
1:15 pm
March 8, 2016
Offline What is your guys opinions on roof racks?
3:20 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline TravisL\
What is your guys opinions on roof racks?
Remember, this is just my opinion... You are welcome to do whatever you want, it's your Jeep.
I think racks are useful if you do a lot of mild(er) "adventure" type stuff.
Racks are a detriment if you do any difficult rock crawling or hard wheeling.
They carry heavy gear up high and make you more tippy in off-camber situations, and all that weight will make you slower.
They have a tendency to catch on trees or rocks on tight trails. Then you have spent a lot of $$$ for a bent metal art piece.
I've seen more than my share of people outfitting their Jeeps with racks just to have them taken off after their first hard trail.
If it were me, I'd look for a rack that is easy to take on and off for the various types of wheeling you may do. I don't know your experience level or the type of wheeling you plan to do, but this would be my general recommendation no matter. You just don't see a lot of racks on the harder trails, and when you do, they are generally moving at a VERY SLOW pace. I remember the old days when guys used to load down their Jeeps with all kinds of racks and gear. Of course it used to take them 2-3 days to cross the Rubicon (it takes me and others in the club about 4 hours). In general, these days people are looking to lighten their rigs and move the center of gravity down lower.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
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