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Which Winch

  1. k-jeep Member Joined: May 2009
    #119 Jun 2016, 12:01 PM

    After doing more winch research I've decided to go with the Smittybilt X20 Comp (synthetic rope). Can't justify spending more than double on a Warn right now.

    My debate is...

    Do I go with the more than adequate 10K (218:1), or go overkill with the 12K (265:1)? The winches are the same dimensions, just different ratio, line speed, and amp draw (12K has lower amp draw).

    10K line speeds: 31.1ft/min@0lbs, 14.3@2000, 11.7@4000, 10.17@6000, 8.8@8000, 7.38@10000

    12K line speeds: 24.6ft/min@0lbs, 11.48@3000, 8.86@6000, 7.22@9000, 5.58@12000

    Thoughts?

  2. Gilbert & Betty Member Joined: September 2014
    #219 Jun 2016, 1:56 PM

    We you know the old saying go big or go home. But seriously I think the lower amp draw may be more advantages. When your stuck and have to use a winch slower may be best "Just saying."ย ๐Ÿค”

  3. Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012
    #319 Jun 2016, 11:48 PM

    I think you are safe with either.ย  They say to run a winch that's 1.5x the vehicle weight.ย  Assuming your jeep is 6000lbs on the heavy side, that's 9000lbs.

    Um...what?
  4. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #419 Jun 2016, 11:59 PM

    I'm planning on a 9.5k winch. I used the crap out of my 8k on my TJ, so I figure the 9.5k should be good for my JKU. I'm also looking at the Smittybilt winches, but I'm having a hard time talking myself out of a Warn. My old Warn pulled and pulled and pulled and NEVER let me down. Hard to beat the track record of my old Warn M8000; Cheap and reliable.

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  5. Josh Subscriber
    #520 Jun 2016, 2:28 AM

    Go Warn! Reliability when you need it most!

    Semper Fi
  6. buckallred Member Joined: October 2016
    #620 Jun 2016, 4:20 AM

    I found a Warn 9.5k on craigslist for $600 not long ago. . . they are out there. Many have sat on the front of a 4Runner, etc for a few years and have never been run.

    Buck & Katie
  7. Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012
    #720 Jun 2016, 6:28 AM

    I have never had a smittybilt, but Jeff sure has abused his over the years and it seems to keep ticking.

    Initially, I wasn't impressed with how Brad was treated with his warn winch warranty issue and seeing Jason set one on fire.ย  But now that I have a warn on the front of my jeep, I have been pretty impressed with it.ย  Time will tell.

    Um...what?
  8. BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003
    #820 Jun 2016, 12:06 PM

    Buy one with a lifetime warranty.

    I owned a 1700 warn power plant. ย Two fordyce trips and it stopped. They would not stand behind my winch...

    People can espouse whatever they like. ย My Australian winch never let me down. My current cheapo winch has never let me down, including pulling several rigs one after the other...

    Kathleen and Brad
  9. k-jeep started this Member Joined: May 2009
    #922 Jun 2016, 3:13 AM

    Back to my original question...ย ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I think I'll be going with the 12K since the dimensions are the same and if I need to use it I'm likely not in any hurry.ย ๐Ÿ™‚

  10. Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012
    #1023 Jun 2016, 12:46 AM
    k-jeep said Back to my original question...ย ๐Ÿ˜‰ I think I'll be going with the 12K since the dimensions are the same and if I need to use it I'm likely not in any hurry.ย ๐Ÿ™‚ย ย 

    Dude, we were having a great debate.ย  Have you looked at weight?ย  My findings show they weigh the same making this post a mute point.ย  but, are you going wireless? Because that can save some weight.

    X2O-10K Waterproof Synthetic Rope Wireless Winch Gen2 with Fairlead - 67lbs... Not sure wired, but I'm guessing the same as below.

    X2O 12K GEN2 Comp Series Wireless Winch - 67lbs... Wired - 51lbs

    Side note, I found this article interesting: http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/129-1107-massive-multi-winch-shootout/ It's old and some of the testing parameters were funny to me and sponsorships may have played a factor, but still worth taking note for those that are winch shopping.

    Um...what?
  11. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #1123 Jun 2016, 1:25 AM

    Does a winch REALLY need to be water proof?

    I submerged my old Warn M8000 so may times I can't even count them and it never let me down when I needed it.

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  12. Josh Subscriber
    #1223 Jun 2016, 1:46 AM
    k-jeep said I think I'll be going with the 12K since the dimensions are the same and if I need to use it I'm likely not in any hurry.ย ๐Ÿ™‚

    12k sounds good Kevin. Then you can pull two rigs out of Hell Hole at the same time.

    Personaly I think just having a winch is a force multiplier. Regardless of brand. If you can self recover your rig then it's a good day!

    Semper Fi
  13. JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003
    #1323 Jun 2016, 2:14 AM

    Josh has a good point; We are probably splitting hairs over which winch.

    Any reliable brand will probably perform just fine for what it was intended for.

    On a side note, I used my old winch a bunch of times, but it was only used for self recovery three times; Once on Fordyce at Winch Hill 1, Once on Fordyce in deep snow at Winch Hill 2, and Once on Highway 20 [Hammers] getting up the final waterfall. All other times it was used to haul other people up obstacles, pull trees out of the way, up-righting "flopped" rigs, trail repairs, and uprooting bushes for yard work.

    I used to wheel a lot. . .
  14. Gilbert & Betty Member Joined: September 2014
    #1423 Jun 2016, 2:18 AM
    Gregulator said

    Dude, we were having a great debate.ย  Have you looked at weight?ย  My findings show they weigh the same making this post a mute point.ย  but, are you going wireless? Because that can save some weight.

    X2O-10K Waterproof Synthetic Rope Wireless Winch Gen2 with Fairlead - 67lbs... Not sure wired, but I'm guessing the same as below.

    X2O 12K GEN2 Comp Series Wireless Winch - 67lbs... Wired - 51lbs

    ย 

    Side note, I found this article interesting: http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/129-1107-massive-multi-winch-shootout/ It's old and some of the testing parameters were funny to me and sponsorships may have played a factor, but still worth taking note for those that are winch shopping.ย ย 

    I thought the Comp Series came with synthetic rope? and had a higher heat range. You know for competition use lol๐Ÿ˜‚

  15. k-jeep started this Member Joined: May 2009
    #1523 Jun 2016, 3:52 PM
    Josh said 12k sounds good Kevin. Then you can pull two rigs out of Hell Hole at the same time.ย 

    Or winch up a vertical cliff!ย ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜œ

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