9:15 pm
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July 10, 2003
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We are tossing around the idea of trading in the Subi. We are tired of fighting all the little gremlins and think it might be good to get rid of it while it has some equity. But what to get next???
I used to wheel a lot. . .
10:47 pm
January 12, 2007
Offline JK Unlimited!
10:53 pm
May 4, 2004
Offline It's got to be at least as nice as a Murano or you'll never hear the end of it.
10:54 pm
May 4, 2004
Offline A couple cars that have caught my eye recently are the Ford Fusion and the Ford Edge.
12:17 am
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline This is a fake thread.
Otherwise, John would have stated at least SOME requirements around his discussion! For example:
AWD requirement?
Seating requirement?
Is mileage a priority?
Etc.
Man up and make some decisions!!! 
12:31 am
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline If it was up to me, we'd be buying a JK/Hummer or at least a new Camaro SS.
However, the wife is looking at Camrys, Accords, and other boring cars 🙄
I used to wheel a lot. . .
1:08 am
We have almost 1,000 miles on the Murano and so far it has been very reliable. I did have to add an iPod adapter through.
We drove an Edge, a Pilot, a Forester, and looked at a CX7, Xterra, and a Pacifica. All were in roughly the same price range. I wasn't impressed with the Forester and got a off feeling from the Pilot. The Edge felt like a decent car, but it just didn't stack up to the Murano. Not sure how much it matters, but the older ones get better mileage than the new ones but the new ones gained some power. 😈 I'll bring it to the next meeting so I can get Elena on my team. 😀
3:28 am
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline She's already in love with those Nissan Minivan crossoever doohickeys 
Tonight she test drove a Nissan Altima...Ho-hum...I was so bored. 🙄
I used to wheel a lot. . .
4:08 am
Cars? got nine right now and still married. I suggest making a list of priorities and then study the April issue of Consumer Reports. I did this a few years ago and ended up with only one choice. Assume that gasoline will be going to $4 next year. Don't assume that Camry and Accord are good cars and Volvos are safe ones. Those reputations have been exploited long enough. I just put some rear brake pads on a 2008 Accord with 15k Miles. Turns out there is a problem with the rear calipers dragging and Honda is really trying to keep it quite. Cars that interest me right now are the 1st gen Scion xB, 2nd gen Prius, Mazda 3, Infinity G35, Honda CRV, Honda Element.
5:16 am
If she's into the nissan she'll love the G35 or even the z. Fun cars
5:52 am
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline We need a kid friendly car, hence the kibosh on my Camaro idea 🙁
I used to wheel a lot. . .
2:01 pm
I always loved the Murano and it got great reviews when it came out. But personally, I don't like CVT transmissions, the way they operate, driver feedback and the repair cost. When the transmission goes, you buy a new car. I would drive a Toyota Venza and the other crossovers before deciding. Some of the new automatics have a torque converter that locks up in each gear and gets better mileage than a stick.
2:16 pm
"RockinCrawler" wrote: ..2nd gen Prius...
I can't figure out why people buy a Prius. It's a tiny car, the mileage isn't super, and I just don't buy it that anybody's hybrid technology is worth paying extra for at this point. My corolla gets similar highway mileage to the older ones, has more tried and true technology, and doesn't require near the maintenance. Of course I don't look as good at Starbucks.
I agree with you about the CVT. It was/is my biggest concern about the car. The way it acts takes some getting used to, but I haven't been disappointed. It doesn't feel like a regular automatic, but that's the point. To me, the car has enough power to cover the lag in the transmission and if you use the "overdrive" (or sport depending on the year) button it usually seems ready to go. Of course, it ain't a Camaro, it's a minivan. 
3:02 pm
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline "Bender" wrote: [quote="RockinCrawler"]..2nd gen Prius...
I can't figure out why people buy a Prius. It's a tiny car, the mileage isn't super, and I just don't buy it that anybody's hybrid technology is worth paying extra for at this point. My corolla gets similar highway mileage to the older ones, has more tried and true technology, and doesn't require near the maintenance. Of course I don't look as good at Starbucks.
I agree with you about the CVT. It was/is my biggest concern about the car. The way it acts takes some getting used to, but I haven't been disappointed. It doesn't feel like a regular automatic, but that's the point. To me, the car has enough power to cover the lag in the transmission and if you use the "overdrive" (or sport depending on the year) button it usually seems ready to go. Of course, it ain't a Camaro, it's a minivan.
Two of my employees have Prius's. One woman drives it like she stole it and gets 47 MPG. The other one's computer showed 53. Those mileage numbers on their computers impressed the heck out of me, but I don't like how the car looks or how the interior is set up.
Another of my employees owns a Venza. He really likes it, but they are newer vehicles and would still be expensive. Don't consider discontinued vehicles like the Pacifica. Their re-sale is in the toilet and nobody wanted them to begin with. Carmax makes most of their money off of used american vehicles, and high end cars. You can get a Porsche Cayanne S for about $8-12K. The original owner paid $90K
I'm waiting to see the new RAV-4 electric with the electronics supplied by Tesla. It's supposed to get between 175 and 250 miles on a charge. I should be able to make up the price difference in just under 100 years with my 8 mile commute (soon to be 6).
3:26 pm
"BKGM Jeepers" wrote: Two of my employees have Prius's. One woman drives it like she stole it and gets 47 MPG. The other one's computer showed 53. Those mileage numbers on their computers impressed the heck out of me, but I don't like how the car looks or how the interior is set up.
53 is reasonable, but I can get 42 out of my corolla so 47 is a waste. I don't see the few extra mpg ever paying for itself. What is the plural for Prius? Priui?
"BKGM Jeepers" wrote: Carmax makes most of their money off of used american vehicles, and high end cars. You can get a Porsche Cayanne S for about $8-12K. The original owner paid $90K
I'm not sure what Carmax you're shopping at, but I'll take take any of the Cayanne that you can find at that price from them.
"BKGM Jeepers" wrote: I'm waiting to see the new RAV-4 electric with the electronics supplied by Tesla. It's supposed to get between 175 and 250 miles on a charge. I should be able to make up the price difference in just under 100 years with my 8 mile commute (soon to be 6).
You moving?
I forgot, we also drove a RAV4. It felt like a rolling pile of underpowered plastic, but I'm pretty disappointed in Toyota's quality lately so I'm pretty jaded.
4:52 pm
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline Not sure about the Prius plural either so I made it up.
I wasn't stating the Prius was a value based on mileage. My personal favorite is the carolla. For the money you get excellent mileage and a relatively fun car to drive.
Went to the website and Carmax has them in the $20k range and up. I was at Roseville when we bought our G37 and they had a Cayanne for $11,900. It was an ugly purple color with a tan interior.
I also looked at a Full Range Rover (not the crappy sport version). It was 2 years old and $47K. A new one was $119K!
10:39 pm
"JohnDF" wrote: We need a kid friendly car, hence the kibosh on my Camaro idea 🙁
I got a London Taxi with a Camaro V6. Seats 7 but no AC...
10:41 pm
Club Member
July 10, 2003
Offline No offense to Fred since we are picking on his cars 
But, I won't drive a Prius, CRV, or any kind of hybrid.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
11:12 pm
May 4, 2004
Offline "JohnDF" wrote: No offense to Fred since we are picking on his cars
But, I won't drive a Prius, CRV, or any kind of hybrid.
No problem here. I drive the CRV now as a hand-me-down, but I never wanted to get it in the first place. Teddi also was the one who wanted the Civic Hybrid. I don't drive it much at all. But I have to say, both Honda's have been really reliable and so far good cars for the money.
12:51 am
How about a 1970 Olds Vista Wagon with 455 and three row seating
3:07 am
"RockinCrawler" wrote: How about a 1970 Olds Vista Wagon with 455 and three row seating
That's got fuel economy written all over it!
3:08 am
February 5, 2003
Offline "BKGM Jeepers" wrote: [quote="Bender"][quote="RockinCrawler"]..2nd gen Prius...
I should be able to make up the price difference in just under 100 years with my 8 mile commute (soon to be 6).
Are you moving or is work moving?
Closed Mondays.
4:37 pm
Club President
April 2, 2003
Offline My work is moving...
7:11 pm
I don't understand the aversion to the Prius. Used models are fairly priced, and they are very quiet on the road. The engine uses the Atkinson cycle which is a very efficient and interesting design. Its worth a google if you have the time. On the highway, the battery depletes in 20 miles and your on the engine that gets 50 mpg, in a very quiet car. Toyota did an excellent job on making a solid noise free chassis and the battery packs has held up incredibly well partly because they don't fully charge or discharge them. But I do have a problem with the full-electric plugins. Fifteen years ago, I converted a Triumph Spitfire to electric. It was a great project. The conversion was easy enough, but with no engine noise, it took forever to track down and fix all the squeaks and rattles. Ended up rebuilding the whole car. The problem was the limited range and the mental overhead it caused. Also, people would always walk out in front of you in the parking lot. Scared the shucks out of lots of people. But the biggest problem was very morning, I had to think about where I needed to drive, how far and only then if I remembered to plugin the car the night before. The Chevy Volt will have an on-board generator and solve this anguish. Plugging in the Nissan Leaf every night is just one more thing to do everyday and I think the car will fail in the marketplace. Problem being that 1000 pounds of battery holds the same energy as one gallon of gas. We need a battery technology with 10x the energy density at 1/10 the weight. Imagine driving a car with a one gallon gas tank that you would have to refill every night one drop at a time. Whats interesting is a CNG vehicle that you fill at home. That's my rant for the day.
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