4:17 pm
May 4, 2004
Here you go John
http://www.calguns.net/calgunf.....sacramento
Edit, Sorry I should have read the entire topic before posting. Looks like it's spoken for already.
5:21 pm
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July 10, 2003
Fred said
Here you go John
http://www.calguns.net/calgunf.....sacramento
Edit, Sorry I should have read the entire topic before posting. Looks like it's spoken for already.
Thanks, sure looks like a nice gun and gets great reviews.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
10:07 pm
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July 10, 2003
Just and update. I mentioned that I wasn't "in love" with my Glock 22. Two problems I have with it is that the slide is VERY hard to rack and the clip is VERY hard to seat. It seems I've solved this problem by leaving one round out of the clip, loading 9 instead of 10, or loading 10 with an open slide and chambering that top round. Now the slide racks easily and the clip slides in place with very little pressure. I guess the Glock is more of a 9 +1 and not really a 10 +1 🙂
I used to wheel a lot. . .
3:15 am
April 23, 2012
The glock deminoshed capacity magazines (the CA 10rounders) are very tight and very difficult to load rds 9 and 10 into the magazine. There are also many firearms that when a mag is loaded to full capacity and inserted into a closed slide firearm are very difficult and must be slammed in and can also put tension on the slide making it harder to rack. This is normal and can change slightly from magazine to magazine and solved by loading from an open slide as well as loading a round short as you have discovered.
On the other hand there are many firearms that the magazines are easier to load to capacity and have less effect on how hard the mag is to seat on a closed slide as well as how hard it is to rack the slide on a full mag.
Neither is correct or incorrect or better or worse and this is generally caused all by how tight the mag spring is and the gun is designed.
There is the obvious advantage of some ease of operation with different designs though weaker type mag springs are not always better as a high mag spring tension can help in reliability of both round ejection and next round feed ability. Too loose as well as too tight can both cause issues.
As simple as a magazine seems they can actually be very difficult to get "right" and themselves be responsible for poor performance of a firearm. One of the biggest example of this included the US military with the implementation of the modern m4/m16 a3/a4 pattern rifle were 60 to as much as 70 percent of failures in function of the firearm were attributed to old worn out or just poor quality production magazines.
10:25 am
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February 26, 2014
My HK usp 45 had the same problem. But after years of service and thousands of rounds the problems no longer exists. I know most gun owners won't put that many rounds through their firearms. Because I slowed down sience I left the sheriffs office. Each firearm has their own break in number of rounds cycled through them (fired) and cycling of the action. My Parra Ordance took a while to break in. But then the slide cracked, I sent it back to the factory for repairs and parts replaced. Now back to square one, the mags on both weapons had the same problem discussed. But they also broke in just fine. I haven't experienced any spring fatigue and I kept my mags loaded. Some people will say don't do that so you won't have weak springs. And suffer and weapons malfunctions when firing. My two cents
6:43 am
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July 10, 2003
This is an informative thread. Thanks for everybody's input.
Having 9 +1 is fine, and extra mags are loaded to 10 rounds since they will be slapped in with an already open slide. The mags have been loaded to 10 rounds for years without loosening up at all, so I don't expect them to get any better in that regard. At least knowing all this (now) has made my gun more user-friendly.
I used to wheel a lot. . .
10:33 am
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June 4, 2012
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12:37 pm
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June 4, 2012
If I can't build it, then it's something that should be bought.
1:31 pm
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June 4, 2012
JohnDF said
Specialsoundman said
Thought I'd run this by John just to be sure, so I need a 9mm, a couple clips, and a box of shells.
Perfect! Now put ten shells in each clip and then insert one of the clips into the 9mm. Let me know if you have any jamming issues 🙂
Only if I need the 9mm to loosen a bolt......
If I can't build it, then it's something that should be bought.
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