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Greg's 2014 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited
April 3, 2017
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Figured it's time for me to post build specs of my rig:

2014 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited.   

  • MetalCloak 3.5" Game Changer Rock Sport Edition
  • Ultimate Dana 60s 5.38s and ARB lockers
  • 1350 Drivelines front and rear
  • KMC Machete Beadlocks
  • 40" Mickey Thompson MTZ P3
  • Rare Parts Steering
  • PSC XD Big Bore Steering Box
  • VKS Fab front and rear bumpers, rock sliders and light bar brackets 
  • Sierra LED 50" Dual Amber Light Bar and bumper pods
  • Warn Zeon Winch
  • Factor55 Pro Link
  • Switch Pros switch panel system
  • ARB Dual Compressor
  • Weather Tech Floor mats

I think that's about it.  Build in process...

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April 3, 2017
8:34 am
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Congrats!  That's awesome!

April 3, 2017
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  • ARB Dual Compressor

What?!?! I thought you were all about the portable chinese compressors?

April 3, 2017
12:58 pm
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Lol, I'm not all about them.  Do they work?  Are they cheap?  Yes!!  But I need an ARB Compressor to run the lockers so might as well go with the dual ARB unit to run the lockers and air the tires up.  Then I can use my 5 year old Chinese pump for backup.   

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April 4, 2017
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It looks and sounds greatthumbs-up

April 7, 2017
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Please report back on the PSC HD steering box after you run the Moab trails.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

April 7, 2017
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Will do. 

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April 7, 2017
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Also, could you tell me where you mounted your dual compressor?

I think my sPOD took my compressor spot 🙁

I used to wheel a lot. . .

April 7, 2017
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JohnDF said
Also, could you tell me where you mounted your dual compressor?

I think my sPOD took my compressor spot 🙁  

I used the MetalCloak bracket. https://www.metalcloak.com/JK-.....p/3152.htm

They run it with the Spod in this video: t=529s 

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April 7, 2017
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I'm sorry but the SwitchPro is so much better than the SPod wink

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April 8, 2017
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Hmmm... Not sure if that bracket will work with my upgraded master cylinder...

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I used to wheel a lot. . .

August 1, 2017
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Hey Greg, hate to keep picking your brain, but...

1). How did your 40s fit on the 3.5" lift?

2). Any big rubbing issues (frame, bumper, etc)?

3). Did you add longer bump stops?

4). How much trimming did you have to do?

5). How did the Mickey Thompson's work?

Any information you can share would be appreciated.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

August 3, 2017
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Bump for Greg,

Your information is important since you run the same size lift, same axles, and same wheel measurements.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

August 3, 2017
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John, Greg is off on a backpacking trip this week.

August 3, 2017
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JohnDF said
Hey Greg, hate to keep picking your brain, but...

1). How did your 40s fit on the 3.5" lift?

2). Any big rubbing issues (frame, bumper, etc)?

3). Did you add longer bump stops?

4). How much trimming did you have to do?

5). How did the Mickey Thompson's work?

Any information you can share would be appreciated.  

I really want to know how he does 40's on a 3 1/2” lift.

I have a 4" lift and run low tread 33's and hit my fenders...

August 3, 2017
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Mike G said

I really want to know how he does 40's on a 3 1/2” lift.

I have a 4" lift and run low tread 33's and hit my fenders...  

Huge difference between TJ and JK fender wells.

August 3, 2017
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Ya. I have 3.5" lift (more like 4.5" with axles) with 37s and don't even come close to rubbing.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

August 4, 2017
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I can at least answer #3.  The metalcloak lift uses stackable bump stops so you can fine tune the kit.  My guess is they do this so that the kit can work with stock fenders but also be adjusted to fit larger tires with their fenders without needing different part numbers.

http://www.metalcloak.com/JK-A.....p/7043.htm

August 4, 2017
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I use metal cloak fender and 4" lift And run 35's without any rubbing. But Kevin's right the jk body and suspension have been re engineered. 

August 5, 2017
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JohnDF said
Hey Greg, hate to keep picking your brain, but...

1). How did your 40s fit on the 3.5" lift? 

2). Any big rubbing issues (frame, bumper, etc)?

3). Did you add longer bump stops?

4). How much trimming did you have to do?

5). How did the Mickey Thompson's work?

Any information you can share would be appreciated.  

1.  They fit.  I am running a 3 inch bumpstop front and rear.  I could take an inch out if I reroute my brakelines and cut the bolt shorter on my sway bar in the rear.  The most eye opening experience for me was getting my jeep on the Metalcloak cti trailer.  I learned a lot about what tweaks I need to make to have them fit better.  I am not getting the full flex out of my kit.

2.  I do rub the frame on the backside of the front tires when fully turned.  I think my wheels are potential too offset causing the issue.  This doesn't totally make sense to me, but Jeff doesn't rub with his jeep.

3. Just the stock bumpstops I was running when I was on 37s.  I made no changes.  But I do plan to tweak the above mentioned things and remove one inch of bumpstop.

4.  Factory flares had to go!!  The front needed a little behind the tires.  I could use more up front when fully stuffed and turning.  The rear needs more also.  The jeep obviously works right now, but on extreme situations, I'll need to cut more.  Mainly the back of the wheel wells.  We mainly made cuts along the pinch seem then folded the body over with a bfh.  I don't really like the look of it and I'm leaning towards just cutting out what needs to be cut out.  Everyone is worried their jeep will fall apart if the remove sections of the pinch seem.  I might have it done professionally to give it a nice cleaned finish look.  I really don't know at this point.  But it needs addressing some day.

5.  I have been pleasantly surprised by the MTs.  They are C rated and I was worried they would wear fast.  I have close to 8k miles on them and I can barely tell any wear.  They are much softer than my toyos.  But not nearly as smooth.  They are noisy also, but I like that about them.  Who doesn't love hearing a mud tire come down the road.  Off road, I can't complain.  They have taken me everywhere I wanted to go.  In Moab, they did great.  Haven't really had them in the mud.  On rocks, they seem to do the job just as I need.  

40's are great.  Some people won't like driving them everyday though so keep that in mind.  I would not want to go back to a smaller tire either.  Maybe a 39" but any smaller and I feel like I should have stayed on dana 44s.

Hope that helps.

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August 6, 2017
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Thanks Greg, hope you had fun on your backpacking trip. Anyways, that's exactly the information I needed. Sounds like it will work with my current setup and some trimming. Then, like you, I can adjust everything as needed. I ordered the Mickey's a couple of days ago and they should be here on Wednesday. Couldn't pass on the price of those tires. I'm already running 3" bumpstop extensions and tube fenders. Sounds like I will be spending some time with the sawzall this week. Are Jeff's axles wider than ours? Perhaps that's why he is not rubbing the frame?

I used to wheel a lot. . .

August 6, 2017
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We haven't pulled tap on the axles that he has, but overall, He was narrower at the time than me.  We'll have to take a closer look and figure it out.  Great choice on the tires, the pricing was the same thing that pushed me to buy them.  Plus everyone I talked to couldn't say anything bad about Mickey Ts.  I need to order my spare soon...

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