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Bear Valley OHV Mid-Week next week!
November 24, 2017
8:51 am
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Tyler - K6TLR
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Hey guys, I need to go up to the Nevada County Fairgrounds and check cell reception in the Winter Fun Fest building. And I was thinking of going up and doing the Bear Valley OHV loop while I am in the area. Probably looking at going Tues or Wednesday, Nov 28 or 29. Will be leaving Roseville around 8am. Anyone want to join me? The Bear Valley Loop is a pretty easy loop... 33s and limited slips can make it through just fine. There are a couple of winch hills for some fun if you have a better geared rig. There are bypasses to the winch hills.

Text me 559300014four if you want to go!

November 27, 2017
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Correction... I am now heading up into the Con on Wednesday to help with a jeep recovery.

November 27, 2017
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Tyler - K6TLR said
Correction... I am now heading up into the Con on Wednesday to help with a jeep recovery.  

your a good guy Tyler.  Wish i could come help

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November 27, 2017
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Tyler - K6TLR said
Correction... I am now heading up into the Con on Wednesday to help with a jeep recovery.  

uh oh. Where on the trail is it? Wish I could go but I have class until noon! And then work afterwords..but that could always be missed

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November 30, 2017
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Tyler - K6TLR said

Correction... I am now heading up into the Con on Wednesday to help with a jeep recovery.  

No Toyota guy can turn down a jeep recovery!  How did it go?  I read about it on Facebook.  Did you extract it?

Um...what?

November 30, 2017
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Gregulator said

No Toyota guy can turn down a jeep recovery!  How did it go?  I read about it on Facebook.  Did you extract it?  

Holy crap, what a day. In short... No, it is still there. I am gonna go up with them again one more time, next week hopefully, and now that we know exactly whats wrong, we will be bringing some spare parts and a welding rod or 2.

Long story!

So, got up to the spillway at 8:30am. On the trail by 9:15am. I was REALLYYY hoping for there to be no snow... but there was a good 1-4 inches of powder everywhere still. The snow condition was awesome, it was the crunchy kind that gives awesome traction. But under the snow, between the snow and the granite everywhere, was a nice layer of ice. So, as soon as you started to slide or spin out, you were done. I started the day at 5psi, by the time we got back to the spillway at 7:45pm, the tires were around 2psi because it had gotten so cold.

Made it through gate keeper with no issues, no spinouts, no hangups. When we got to the top of the bowl, we couldn't see a non-icey route down. So we spent about an hour walking all over the bowl trying to find a navicable path that didn't end up with a nonstop ice slide to the bottom of the slabs. Making it up the other side was no problem, almost all the snow and ice was melted and dried up.

Walker Hill was interesting. There was one little group of rocks that starts what I consider the middle, narrow, steep section (the hard part of walker) that I had to drive up on the wall a bit then come back down in order to get over with the icey snow. Otherwise there were no hangups going up.

Soup Bowl was way too snowy to even attempt. Just going through the main trail to the right of the obstacle was icey and off camber enough that I just slid over into the rock wall on driver side. Pretty much dragged my beadlocks, sliders, and mirror along the whole wall because of it lol

We went left at Little Sluice and got just passed the weird spot where there is a random outhouse just chilling out in the middle of some slabs. Just before it starts going downhill, down the granite slabs to the entrance of Big Sluice. While going over the slabs leaving Little Sluice, we were sliding all over the place, and it wasn't really that much of an incline or off camber, it was just that the ice slicks on the granite were nuts. So, we decided to not descend down the slabs into the Big Sluice area... which is where the jeep is. So, instead we hiked.

We got all the tools we thought we would need (2 tool bags, a 60" hi lift, gloves, jackets, ham radio (put the car on crossband repeat), water) and hiked 1/2 mile down the slabs to the Jeep. I am very glad we chose to leave the rigs at the top as we all fell at least once trying to walk down that.

By the time we physically got to the jeep, it was about 2:30pm. Sun disappears up there around 4:30. So we got to workin. At 4pm we called it quits, packed up the tools, and started the arduous hike up the 1/2 mile of slabs to the rigs. We got back to the campsite and outhouse at Little Sluice at pretty much sun down, 5pm or so. We then wheeled out from Little Sluice to Loon Lake, in the snow, in the dark. Surprisingly, we didn't have any issues coming out. I thought we were gonna be screwed trying to get up the Bowl, and reached out to some people on the repeater to let them know we might be spending the night down there and to just keep monitoring the repeater so that someone knows where we are. Luckily, with the sun down, and it getting chilly, everything froze right up and we had amazingly awesome traction the whole way out. Even though we didn't really need the help on the repeater, it was a huge stress relief knowing that a group of people knew where we were and that we had human contact, who were pretty much ready to come get us if need be... I kept telling them we were fine though, but I thought it was pretty cool how ready they were to mount a rescue for the rescue haha. We were completely prepared for an overnighter though, I brought everything I would have needed for a subzero night in the 4runner, and the other guy did too... except dry firewood. We made it out to the spillway pretty quickly (730pm... little sluice to the spillway in 2 1/2 hours in the snow), aired up, and went our separate ways.

The examination and figuring out what's wrong with the jeep:

#1 - Front passenger track bar bracket sheared off the axle
#2 - Because of #1, the front driver track bar snapped its mount on the unibody
Because of 1 and 2, the axle wrapped and threw off the pinion angle, which grenaded the ujoint and ears on the yoke, which means...
#3 - There were 3 bolts still left in the pinion flange. We were able to remove 2 of them, and attempted to drill out the third one, but snapped 4 bits doing so. So, we cant get all 4 bolt holes cleared to reattach the yoke to the flange.
#4 - When the ears blew and the yoke pulled off the drive shaft, it bent the splines on the driveshaft
and #5 is its position... Its rear passenger tire is down in a hole. We strapped the axle up and lifted the vehicle as much as we could for it being so off camber, and put rocks under the tire. But... his rear locker isnt working either, so even in 2wheel drive and 7-8 inches of rocks under his tire, we couldnt get him backed up out of the hole... mainly because of...
#6 His front passenger wheel is planted sideways into the tip of 2 rocks. So there is a car sized rock poking its way into his wheel and keeping him from moving forwards or backwards.

If the rain and snow can hold off this weekend, we are gonna make one more go at getting it out. With no rain or snow for a week, it shouldn't be icey any more and we should be able to get rigs down to his jeep. This will solve #5 and 6 because I will be able to winch him off of the precarious spot.

For 1 and 2, we are taking some welding rods and gonna hook up a couple car batteries to try and weld the control arms brackets back in place. If that fails, we are gonna be using and interesting setup of wratchet straps and cam straps.

For 3, we are going to put in 3 of the bolts, and try to hose clamp the ear that has the stuck bolt. We might also be using a fun setup of cam straps to fix the yoke to the pinion flange.

For 4, the owner is going to bring a driveshaft off his other jeep and we will swap it out

Hopefully with that plan of action, we will be able to gingerly get it out and off the trail. If it rains/snows this weekend, then it will be staying up there until spring. I got a GPS location on it, so we know where it is!

There is nothing quite like being the first to lay down tracks in snow. There really is nothing quite like being the first to put down tracks in the snow on the Rubicon. It was a beautiful day, sunny all day and great weather.

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November 30, 2017
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wow! what an effort Tyler.  the 4 wheeling community and guys like you are amazing.  I hope the weather holds for you guys!!

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November 30, 2017
8:37 pm
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My goodness Tyler you are a trooper. 

December 1, 2017
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You're a good man Tyler. Good luck! Thanks for the detailed description.

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