I'm making a new build thread since my old one does not apply anymore.
I picked up this tubed out 1985 CJ7 from a young kid who bought it and did some crazy stuff to it and then decided he didn't want it anymore. I decided to rescue this wheeler from him and get it back on the trail again. This jeep-buggy aka juggy needs a descent amount of work. It should be a fun project.
The juggy has a Dana 60 front with an electric locker and full hydro steering the rear axle is a Dana 70 welded. The gearing is 5.89 in both axles. The front suspension is a 4 link with bilstien couloirs. The rear is 4 link with fox air shocks. The motor is an AMC 360 v8 to an np435 to a Dana 300 twin stick with a 4-1. The juggy is riding on 44x19.5X16.5 tsl super swampers on 16.5 steel trail ready beadlocks.
The jeep crawls awesome with the low gears. The v8 sounds burly too but could use a good tune up.
More to come...
Juggy Rebuild
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Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012First thing I wanted to do was pull the jeep out and give it a good bath.
Then I began the tear down. The skins on the side of the jeep are super thin and were mounted using self tapping screws. They were pretty beat up and had some rips so off they came for some new skins in the near future.
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Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012The tires that came on the jeep we're pretty sun rot. They had some nice cracks and were super dry. One if the tires had a nice tear in the sidewall that the precious owner attempted to repair by bailing wire. Well, that didn't work so he cut another tire up and glued it to the inside of the torn tire with an inner tube. I knew the tires had to go. The wheels were in not much better condition. 16.5 tires have terrible beads. The tires don't really stay on the rims with anything below 12psi. Well, the pervious owner kept loosing the inner bead so he used self tapping screws and screwed the tire to the wheel.
I posted the tires and wheels up for sale on pirate not expecting to have any interest. But the tires and wheels sold. πUm...what?
Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012I really wanted to buy new tires for the juggy. I test fitted some 42 iroks and to be honest, they looked way to small. I knew I had to go with 44s again. My choices are slim at the 44 size. You have pit bulls or swampers. Pit bulls are way too much $$ so they were out of the question. New tsl's were about $2600. That wasn't going to happen either cause I still need to buy a trailer. So I searched and searched and found some used 44 tsl's in Tracy. ROAD TRIP!!
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BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003Looks like a great project! Cool color too!
Kathleen and Brad- Guest former userGuest former user
"BKGM Jeepers" wrote: Looks like a great project! Cool color too!
Isn't orange in your future too? - Guest former userGuest former user
Gregg, Looks good! I hope we can make the rubicon this weekend!
Josh SubscriberJosh SubscriberQuite the Monster Greg. Nice choice of paint. We will be able to see you coming from miles away!
Semper Fi
BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003"lj4x4" wrote: [quote="BKGM Jeepers"]Looks like a great project! Cool color too!
Isn't orange in your future too?
You are correct!Kathleen and Brad
Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012Thanks guys. I thought you guys would like the color.
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Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012I picked up some new wheels to go with my new used tires
Hummer beadlocks!! There's a guy in Placerville that is selling them out of his garage. These are 24 bolt recentered with press inserts to 3.5" back spacing. Hummer beadlocks are double beadlocks. They lock the inside and outside bead. No more worries of the bead falling off. I can drive on these things flat and the tire shouldn't come off the wheel.
Install write up to follow.
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Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012Hummer beadlocks assembly:
This is what you get. The main wheel, outer ring, valve stem, PVC insert and hardware.
This is how they assemble without a tire.
First thing you have to do is insert the PVC inside the tire. This can be tricky but soap and water does wonders with tires. One person can pop these PVC inserts into the tire.
Just turn the insert sideways and sit on it after you soap it. It will pop in then it's just a matter of turning the insert.
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Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012All the PVC inserts have a small hole drilled in them to allow air flow through the insert.
Next I set the rim on a bucket and placed the tire with the PVC on to the rim.
Keeping the tire elevated helps the tire sit properly on bathe rim.
Next in your bag of hardware should be an O ring that is laid in the O ring channel on the wheel. This helps seal the wheel.
The O ring provided with my wheel was a tad to big. So I cut and super glued the O ring to size.
Now this is where there are differences of opinions. You can bolt the outer ring on and hope that the O ring is enough to seal the wheel. Or you can use silicon to help assist the O ring in sealing. I was able to have one wheel seal without silicon but for peace of mind we used silicon on the last 3.
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Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012Next you add the outer ring. There should be plenty of room for the nuts to begin on the studs. In the best way that you can, you will begin to tighten the nuts on the studs and attempt to seat the outer ring as level as possible.
The nuts need to be tightened to 125 ft lb of torque. So you really have to crank on them. The outer ring needs to make contact with the rim. The Clarence between the two should be around .0015. So tighten until you cannot tighten anymore. This is where air tools really come in handy. Remember to not shake or motive the rim until the outer ring is seated or the O ring could fall out of place. Then you would have to disassemble the wheel and start over again.
End product:
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Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012Side not, tire beads are different thicknesses so you may need to do research on how wide your insert needs to be. For example, my swampers require a 6.75" insert. My inserts where larger then that so my brother had to sand them down with us belt sander.
Jeff gets most of the credit for assembling these things. It took me 4 days messing with these things to only seal one. Where Jeff was able to mount and seal the last 3 in 4-5 hours.
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BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 2003BKGM Jeepers President Joined: June 20034 hrs to install 3 beadlocks? Yikes!
With them all done now, are they on your jeep?Kathleen and Brad
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JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003JohnDF Member Joined: July 2003Those wheels look tiny on those huge tires π
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Very cool. Thanks for posting. π
Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012Wheels and tires are not mounted yet. That's the plan today. I will update with pictures.
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Thanks for the pics and commentary Greg! I like the orange color too.
Are the wheels 15"?
Are these the hummer wheels kind that are DOT street legal?
Looking forward to the finished rollers big guy.
Gregulator Member Joined: February 2012Gregulator started this Member Joined: February 2012The wheels are 16.5 the only size hummer wheels available. The wheels in stock form are DOT, but once they cut the stock wheel mounting surface off and recenter with the pressed centers, technically they are no long DOT since they have been modified.
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"finder_87" wrote: The wheels are 16.5 the only size hummer wheels available. The wheels in stock form are DOT, but once they cut the stock wheel mounting surface off and recenter with the pressed centers, technically they are no long DOT since they have been modified.
I'm guessing that if you get caught driving that thing on the street the DOT approval of your tires is going to be the least of their concerns. π
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