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8/26 - Fordyce Day Run
July 6, 2015
8:26 am
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BKGM Jeepers
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Is there interest in a Weekday trip across Fordyce?

The run would occur on a Tuesday or a Wednesday.

Requirements:
Short wheel base - 35" tires AND at least one true locker (must be an ARB-type or equivilent, not limited slip type lockers).
Long-wheel base - 37" tires AND at least one true locker, but two are highly preferred.

Please post up interest and we can talk about dates. I'd like to get this trail run in fairly soon but if August works thats fine as well.

A winch is strongly recommended here as well since you'll likely be testing it out!

If you run an early JK or JKU (07-09 I believe) that has the aluminum TPS sensors, they must be removed and replaced with rubber valve stems for this run. No exceptions for this run! Sorry...

July 6, 2015
9:57 am
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Sounds enticing. In your opinion, where would I fit in? My wheelbase in 6-8 inches longer than short and about 15 inches shorter than long.

FNG

July 6, 2015
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Would this be a slow paced run for first time Fordyce people?

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July 6, 2015
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I'm interested depending on the dates. I believe my jeep has the lockers required?

July 6, 2015
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Justin S. said

Sounds enticing. In your opinion, where would I fit in? My wheelbase in 6-8 inches longer than short and about 15 inches shorter than long.

You would qualify under the "short wheel base" option.

July 6, 2015
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Josh said

Would this be a slow paced run for first time Fordyce people?

If we get on the trail at 0830 (and it's only 8 miles long), we will have plenty of time to get across. You'll be fine with pace.

July 6, 2015
12:33 pm
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Gilbert & Betty said

I'm interested depending on the dates. I believe my jeep has the lockers required?

Jeep Rubicons have either low pressure air lockers (TJs) or e-lockers (JKs). Both are legitimate lockers so you'd be good to go!

However, I suggest you manage the Rubicon in a day before attempting Fordyce. Fordyce is a much tougher trail, with significant ledges. The ledges are challenging for short wheel base vehicles.

July 6, 2015
3:17 pm
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I'd be up for it depending on date.

I'm guessing that, because of the drought, that river flows are probably low?

River flow is something else to be aware of. Especially for those running with no doors as you will cross the river several times. Ask John. https://posse4x4.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/Wave.png

You'll also want to make sure your breathers (axles, t-case, tranny) are extended up high if the water is deeper.

Fordyce is one of the reasons I ordered my Jeep with half doors.

July 6, 2015
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You could also ask Don about no doors on Fordyce. https://posse4x4.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/BigGrin.png

Here's the gallery from several years ago. Don is in the blue LJ. Most only went to the first River crossing and then back on this trip. It gets much more difficult after that.

https://posse4x4.org/gallery/ng.....dyce-trail

July 6, 2015
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k-jeep said

I'd be up for it depending on date.

I'm guessing that, because of the drought, that river flows are probably low?

River flow is something else to be aware of. Especially for those running with no doors as you will cross the river several times. Ask John. https://posse4x4.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/Wave.png

You'll also want to make sure your breathers (axles, t-case, tranny) are extended up high if the water is deeper.

Fordyce is one of the reasons I ordered my Jeep with half doors.

Yes!
I was in the second river crossing and had water go over the top of my hood on my TJ.

You either need to run full doors or half doors, or pull your drain plugs before the run.

The water levels will be among the lowest we've ever seen becuase of the drought. Making sure your breathers are at least attached is important.

July 6, 2015
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I've seen people take 4-6 hours to get to the first river crossing. It's about a 30-45 Minute drive for our group. Kevin is right that it gets much more fun after the first water crossing.

July 6, 2015
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My trail rating system has Rubicon at a 5.
I would put Fordyce as an 8. Much more fun than Rubicon.
I'll wait on Fordyce until I can try out my rig on more mellow trails. I don't want to ruin the Jeep's pretty body right out of the gate. 🙂
I'll start with Strawberry. then Rubicon, and then Fordyce. Who knows, maybe even a return to The Hammers for some true 10 rated trails once I have another daily driver.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

July 6, 2015
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k-jeep said

Ask John. https://posse4x4.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/Wave.png

Yes, water running over my lap.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

July 6, 2015
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I'd like to go. I'll have to get the day off, so the sooner a date is nailed down, the better. Sounds fun!

FNG

July 6, 2015
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Ok!

And, thx Kevin for my avatar.

July 7, 2015
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We are interested depending on the date. We think our jeep can handle it, do you Brad? (Just got an upgraded gas tank skid plate today!) August is better than July due to Guy traveling most of the month, but that's just us. Thanks for doing this.

July 7, 2015
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What Hell Holes trail rating?

July 7, 2015
6:15 pm
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Darrell and Jill said

What Hell Holes trail rating?

After giving it much thought
The trails we run (mostly)
From "easiest" to "hardest":
Long Canyon - 3
Bear Valley - 3
Strawberry - 4
Deer Valley - 4.5
Hell Hole - 5
Barrett - 6
Rubicon - 6.5
Fordyce - 8
Hammers - 6 to 10+ depending on the trail

But that's just my opinion...

I used to wheel a lot. . .

July 7, 2015
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If we can get the day off from work, we are in. But will need a date.

July 8, 2015
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Anybody agree or disagree with my trail ratings?

I used to wheel a lot. . .

July 8, 2015
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JohnDF said

Anybody agree or disagree with my trail ratings?

On the scale that Hammers is a 10, yes I agree.

I've seen other sites rate Rubicon a 10 so slide your scale appropriately.

My $0.02. smile

July 8, 2015
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JohnDF said

Anybody agree or disagree with my trail ratings?

Agree so far as the trails I have actually done. Sounds like this might be worth a separate thread/sticky, hint hint mr webmaster.wink

July 8, 2015
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kris_olof said

JohnDF said

Anybody agree or disagree with my trail ratings?

Agree so far as the trails I have actually done. Sounds like this might be worth a separate thread/sticky, hint hint mr webmaster.https://posse4x4.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/Winking.png

Off-Topic conversations are encouraged 🙂
I did not include Slick Rock, as I've never ran it.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

July 9, 2015
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JohnDF said

Anybody agree or disagree with my trail ratings?

That seems about right for difficulty ratings, but oddly Strawberry seems to cause as much or more breakage as the more difficult trails.

July 9, 2015
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Fred said

JohnDF said

Anybody agree or disagree with my trail ratings?

That seems about right for difficulty ratings, but oddly Strawberry seems to cause as much or more breakage as the more difficult trails.

True. I've broken stuff just as often on Strawberry as any other trail.

I used to wheel a lot. . .

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