Don't Forget, meetings have moved to our new location @ Mark and Monica's Family Pizza, 4751 Manzanita Ave., Carmichael, CA 95608!
9:04 pm

Club Trailmaster
March 13, 2015
OfflineSun. March 9, 2025 8:30 am – 4:00 pm-ish
Meeting at the Subway/Shell station in Pollock Pines off of Hwy 50 and Sly Park exit.
Pollock Pines Subway/Shell Station
6529 Pony Express Trail
Pollock Pines
CA 95726
Meet at 8:30am for drivers' meeting and sign-in; we will leave at 9:00am. Will plan on having lunch around noon or so and start packing up around 2:00pm - 3:00pm depending when the afternoon wheelers get back. Dress for a day in the snow and cold.
Please post below if you are attending.
Other notes:
This run is currently open if we have any pending members needing a BBQ so post up if you want to take this on. We will use the club's HAM PosseV2 frequency for communications, so bring your HAM radios. Additionally I will now carry a second radio for those with only GMRS/FRS radios.
General things to remember to bring:
-Tables
-Chairs
-Fire wood
-Warm Beverages
-Water (cold weather is very dehydrating)
-Easy-up
8:19 am

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December 23, 2024
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December 23, 2024
Offlinekris_olof said
Sun. March 9, 2025 8:30 am – 4:00 pm-ishWe will use the club's HAM PosseV2 frequency for communications, so bring your HAM radios. Additionally I will now carry a second radio for those with only GMRS/FRS radios.
@Seanette and I don't have a ham license, and obtaining one isn't very high on our priorities. But I think it was mentioned, at the last meeting, that there is some provision that allows us to legally use a radio on the organization's frequency without a license of our own, in connection with the organization's activities. Did I understand this correctly? If so, then if we continue to participate in events such as this, perhaps at some point, we should obtain a suitable radio for that use. Any relatively inexpensive brand and model that you would recommend?
We do have a pair of GMRS radios, and I take your mention of a “second radio” that you will be reachable by that.
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11:03 am

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May 12, 2023
OfflineBob Blaylock said
kris_olof said
Sun. March 9, 2025 8:30 am – 4:00 pm-ish
We will use the club's HAM PosseV2 frequency for communications, so bring your HAM radios. Additionally I will now carry a second radio for those with only GMRS/FRS radios.
@Seanette and I don't have a ham license, and obtaining one isn't very high on our priorities. But I think it was mentioned, at the last meeting, that there is some provision that allows us to legally use a radio on the organization's frequency without a license of our own, in connection with the organization's activities. Did I understand this correctly? If so, then if we continue to participate in events such as this, perhaps at some point, we should obtain a suitable radio for that use. Any relatively inexpensive brand and model that you would recommend?
We do have a pair of GMRS radios, and I take your mention of a “second radio” that you will be reachable by that.
Bob,
The club has a pair of frequencies on HAM (amateur radio service) that we are able to use when on official club events, and the people at the event are covered by the club license.
Your question about a budge friendly amateur radio, many of us use a Bofang radio that we get off of Amazon. Here is a link to an example:
Dale Mogg - WRZG209
11:12 am

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May 12, 2023
OfflineBob Blaylock said
kris_olof said
Sun. March 9, 2025 8:30 am – 4:00 pm-ish
We will use the club's HAM PosseV2 frequency for communications, so bring your HAM radios. Additionally I will now carry a second radio for those with only GMRS/FRS radios.
@Seanette and I don't have a ham license, and obtaining one isn't very high on our priorities. But I think it was mentioned, at the last meeting, that there is some provision that allows us to legally use a radio on the organization's frequency without a license of our own, in connection with the organization's activities. Did I understand this correctly? If so, then if we continue to participate in events such as this, perhaps at some point, we should obtain a suitable radio for that use. Any relatively inexpensive brand and model that you would recommend?
We do have a pair of GMRS radios, and I take your mention of a “second radio” that you will be reachable by that.
I believe these are actually the same as what I have.
Dale Mogg - WRZG209
12:39 pm

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April 18, 2019
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January 10, 2025
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March 13, 2015
OfflineBob Blaylock said
But I think it was mentioned, at the last meeting, that there is some provision that allows us to legally use a radio on the organization's frequency without a license of our own, in connection with the organization's activities. Did I understand this correctly? If so, then if we continue to participate in events such as this, perhaps at some point, we should obtain a suitable radio for that use. Any relatively inexpensive brand and model that you would recommend?
Yes, they are technically business band frequencies so as long as you are on a club run you don’t need any licenses. We say HAM since everyone uses unlocked ham radios like the cheap baufeng units.
4:51 pm
December 23, 2024
Offlinekris_olof said
Bob Blaylock said
But I think it was mentioned, at the last meeting, that there is some provision that allows us to legally use a radio on the organization's frequency without a license of our own, in connection with the organization's activities. Did I understand this correctly? If so, then if we continue to participate in events such as this, perhaps at some point, we should obtain a suitable radio for that use. Any relatively inexpensive brand and model that you would recommend?
Yes, they are technically business band frequencies so as long as you are on a club run you don’t need any licenses. We say HAM since everyone uses unlocked ham radios like the cheap baufeng units.
On a somewhat related note, it came up at some completely unrelated event that a particular variety of “HAM” radios are popular among offroaders, that in general, you do need HAM license to use them, but that getting a HAM license is not nearly as difficult or expensive now, that it used to be. Historically, I think of it as something that one had to be pretty serious about HAM radio as a hobby to find worth pursuing; but I gather it is now common for offroaders to get such licenses, just to be able to use these in connection with offroad activities.
I assume that the Baufeng units that have been suggested here fall into that category. if @Seanette and I got them, we'd legally be able to use them on the Gold Hill Posse frequency, in connection with Gold Hills Posse activities, without having a license of our own, but otherwise, for any other use, we would need a license, right?
Just how involved is it, anyway, to get such a license? Might it be worthwhile for the club to hold some sort of event to help those of us associated therewith to get such licenses?
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8:08 am

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July 14, 2016
OfflineBob Blaylock said
kris_olof said
Bob Blaylock said Just how involved is it, anyway, to get such a license? Might it be worthwhile for the club to hold some sort of event to help those of us associated therewith to get such licenses?
Bob, check out Tyler's website: https://myoffroadradio.com/
Jeff and Kathy Root
1:49 pm
December 23, 2024
OfflineJeff_R said
Bob Blaylock said
kris_olof said
Bob Blaylock said Just how involved is it, anyway, to get such a license? Might it be worthwhile for the club to hold some sort of event to help those of us associated therewith to get such licenses?
Bob, check out Tyler's website: https://myoffroadradio.com/
Looks like the page that ought to be useful, is currently broken.
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5:55 am

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July 14, 2016
OfflineBob Blaylock said
Looks like the page that ought to be useful, is currently broken.
That's too bad.
Jeff and Kathy Root
11:43 am
December 23, 2024
OfflineJeff_R said
Bob Blaylock said
Looks like the page that ought to be useful, is currently broken.
That's too bad.
I guess it's not crucial at this point.
When some money comes in, @Seanette and I will probably get the radios so that we can use them in connection with Gold Hills Posse events.
I am correct about these being the radios which would require a HAM license for other uses, and that they are radios for which those other uses would commonly include communicating with other offroaders in other contexts, right? I'm sure that at some point in the future, the guidance will be available for us to get such a license; if not through this club, then from some other source.
In the mean time, we also have GMRS, and I'm sure a lor of other offroaders do as well.
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1:26 pm

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July 14, 2016
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March 13, 2015
OfflineBob Blaylock said
I am correct about these being the radios which would require a HAM license for other uses, and that they are radios for which those other uses would commonly include communicating with other offroaders in other contexts, right? I'm sure that at some point in the future, the guidance will be available for us to get such a license; if not through this club, then from some other source.
So long as you aren't broadcasting on HAM frequencies you are perfectly legal. Unlocked radios are technically are illegal to manufacture and sell, but not illegal to buy or own. And you are fully legal to use HAM in an emergency situation. If you don't have your HAM license just use the GMRS/FRS frequencies on these radios but have a few of the local HAM repeaters included for emergency communication. I think Jamie has his laptop and can program the radios with the relevant frequencies.
5:02 am

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July 14, 2016
Offlinekris_olof said
And you are fully legal to use HAM in an emergency situation. If you don't have your HAM license just use the GMRS/FRS frequencies on these radios but have a few of the local HAM repeaters included for emergency communication. I think Jamie has his laptop and can program the radios with the relevant frequencies.
I'm not sure many of us know how to use these radios to access HAM repeaters in an emergency. This might be something worth doing a training on.
Jeff and Kathy Root
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